JBL 4367 shoutiness remedies?

@ozzy62 It is indeed sad, but I'm sure we all do it to some degree. Mark Levinson talked about this years ago. The system dictates what we listen to.  I just can't listen to "demo" music anymore, i.e., Krall, Patricia Barber, etc.  It's not that they're bad artists, although not my cup of tea, but they've been so overplayed at shows and videos that I can't stomach it anymore.  But that's me. 

A tube preamp should do a lot to warm up and smooth out the sound i recommend VAC or CJ which is warmer.If you can afford VAC that is my top pick great company with wonderful service. I also recommend copper speaker wire.Enjoy be well!!

to all you 4367 experts.  I am thinking of getting a pair.  I am not going to be able to audition so it's a leap of faith.  I have Kef Blade 2 and also Klipsch Forte III.  I'm liking the Forte III with a First Watt J2 amp (30 watts) Not like the blades don't sound good but I'm growing tired of the sound and have been enjoying the life and snap of the Forte III.  I was thinking of a jump to the Cornwall IV or these 4367.  Seems like I might ultimately need a more powerful amp than the J2?  I'd say it's just barely enough with the Forte III.  Cornwall IV is much more efficient than the 4367.  I'd assume the 4367 is at a much higher level than the Cornwall IV.  

Don't sell the CW IV short. These are fantastic loudspeakers and if your only reference are the earlier versions, you will be quite impressed.

Oz

A lot of good advice already. Those asking about running with a low power tube amp I am currently running a Luxman MQ-88uSE 25 watt per channel to good effect. Not ear bleeding loud, but far better than you might suspect. I also run the speakers on Levinson mono blocks. Overall, the “you are there” attributes that many seek out in these speakers is probably best highlighted with the powerful mono blocks, however for a slightly different flavor, they are excellent match for tubes—Nice impedance curve with no severe dips and very good sensitivity. They still maintain a good degree of the “you are there” feeling. I have yet to try any other speakers with my tube amp so cannot make a direct comparison.

As for the “shoutiness” this is again somewhat of a horn attribute. However these are the least shouty horn speakers I’ve personally heard. Horns take a little adapting to and are not for everyone. Even the best of them.

I haven’t seen any specific measurements for this speaker, but as a general rule large cones can become more directional at the high end of their frequency spectrum. If you listen too far off axis the upper woofer frequencies drop off making the higher frequency horns sound relatively more pronounced and shouty. Correct toe in can help alleviate this. Seated ear height can affect this too. I find these speakers sound best if your ear height it’s toward the bottom edge of the horn +/-. Either lower seat or raise speakers. This puts you closer in alignment with the woofer axis. Set sitting height, then play with the tow in. Experiment with both one at a time.

I prefer a little closer distance on the speakers than some here... my current set up is 7’10” apart feet apart and seated 8’ from the face (not tweeter driver) of the speaker. I have them towed in so I can see maybe a 1 inch reveal of the inner sides of the speakers. Some of this is driven by my room constraints. But a starting point. You may want to buy some cheap plastic gliders to temporarily put under the feet of the speakers while you adjust. Maybe some under your seat too. And, if you’re anal like me, some clean gloves for handling the speakers. A laser measure device comes in handy for getting distances set. From a seated position hold laser measure against your ear and aim at the center of control panel.


I think second reflection point treatment is a good idea. 4 inches or thicker. I’ve never much liked 1st reflection point treatments..personal preference and room dependent. Some put large leafy artificial plants in front corners to help scatter sound. Oh yeah, ditch the analog equalizer. These speakers are highly, highly revealing and flaws in the upstream equipment or unnecessary components will be highlighted. Be patient, one move at a time and enjoy the music while experimenting.