Musings from old school on High Fidelity


Old interview in Stereophile of JA interviewing G Holt.

Do you see any signs of future vitality in high-end audio?

Vitality? Don't make me laugh. Audio as a hobby is dying, largely by its own hand. As far as the real world is concerned, high-end audio lost its credibility during the 1980s, when it flatly refused to submit to the kind of basic honesty controls (double-blind testing, for example) that had legitimized every other serious scientific endeavor since Pascal. [This refusal] is a source of endless derisive amusement among rational people and of perpetual embarrassment for me, because I am associated by so many people with the mess my disciples made of spreading my gospel. For the record: I never, ever claimed that measurements don't matter. What I said (and very often, at that) was, they don't always tell the whole story. Not quite the same thing.

Remember those loudspeaker shoot-outs we used to have during our annual writer gatherings in Santa Fe? The frequent occasions when various reviewers would repeatedly choose the same loudspeaker as their favorite (or least-favorite) model? That was all the proof needed that [blind] testing does work, aside from the fact that it's (still) the only honest kind. It also suggested that simple ear training, with DBT confirmation, could have built the kind of listening confidence among talented reviewers that might have made a world of difference in the outcome of high-end audio.

Yet you achieved so much, Gordon.

I know I did, and my whole excuse for it—a love for the sound of live classical music—lost its relevance in the US within 10 years. I was done in by time, history, and the most spoiled, destructive generation of irresponsible brats the world has ever seen. (I refer, of course, to the Boomers.)

High Fidelity means REPRODUCTION with as little distorion and color as possible and a flat neutral FR within the range of human hearing that retains as much of the original source as possible. This day and age we have the ability to come close but we have chosen the path where High Fidelity means whatever subjective opinion I choose. It might be what one prefers but it isn't HiFi.
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Jadis DPL, like the 1st preamp Jadis ever designed,,just arrived its ancient, simple,, but plays,,, honestly the jadis clone LS9 pre.modded with M  silver caps,,was just fine, but had to see if i could go higher for $1350,,, put my system at a  slightly high base  camp, Then new caps, like 16, should get my system een higher up Everest. ,,,why do we  have this desire to go higher and higher,,what drives us, to reach ever new heights,,when we know our sound is just fine the way it is,,, trying something new, modding what we have,,, we have that urge to go for it, ,,,add new debt to our paypal...At times out choices went sour,, we made some slips on rocky cliffs, but we  hold on,,and look for another route. ,,,maybe we should follow paths laid out by those who are experienced,,and tahts why we post here,,,to question our choices, thereby not making simuliar mistakes other mountaineers made.
Til at last, in our old age, when our hearing is at a loss, we have acheived The Goal,,and hopefully not too late in life where we can sit back and enjoy what we constructed,,w/o any thoughts of tweeking and modifying. 
 at times i find more attention goes into how my system sounds than actually listening to the music for music's sake.  

" at times i find more attention goes into how my system sounds than actually listening to the music for music's sake."

I can relate. I find myself listening to only my best sounding recordings for the most part, but it is what it is. I can bounce around to a song over the clock radio or a boombox. But if the best sound I can achieve affects me like a warm, embracing high for a little while, so be it. I'm OK with not playing crappy recordings, even if it is my favorites, on my A system. If the music I do play on the system gives me that high, then I have gotten what I'm after, my DoC. Some caution to not forget about enjoying the music, but I think there is a legitimate case to be made for seeking the peak, and for me, it comes to a chemical experience, really. No needle or pill required to feel like a carefree, warm pile of mush for a while... 
"...and Heaven is in your mind...."

It still comes to what constitutes one's Heaven, and the ways and means one applies to attain It...

There seems (mho) to be a 'doubt' function in play....

I doubt my speakers are reproducing what they should....
I wonder if my cables are introducing distortion...
Is that DAC working properly?
'Something'....is amiss....

It's human nature to 'externalize'.....and what ones' focus can zero in on tends to be that which one desires their intention of 'perfection'.

*s* Just musing 'different' here....;)

Old Skool and Proud...but just being the Devils' Advocate for the moment....*g*
Although, blind test can be helpful when evaluating equipment, it is not nearly enough to be the decisive method of determining which system sound is best. One have to live with the system for a long time in order to determine what’s best. In addition, coloration, measurements, frequency respond, debt perception, attack, pace of music, dynamics, quietness are all attractive contributes of a great sounding system. However, many times they are not tangible to each other. Let me explain. If you desire good dynamic system, you will introduce some coloration in the sound - which is typical with horn speakers. If you desire low noise floor and quite system you’ll loose dynamics and micro details, attack and quickness and the sound will become dead. The moral of the story is that, all comes to careful balance of your system attributes.