TUBE or SS PATHS


This came from my local Technician:  "  You all are enthusiasts of fine audio reproduction equipment, and of course, appreciators of fine musicianship. I'm curious of your thoughts concerning the reproduction of sound. As audiophiles, is it not the desire to faithfully reproduce and amplify the input signal without distortion of any kind? Why is it then, that some prefer tubes due to their "warm" personality, and others prefer the "sterile" personality of solid state? Indeed, if a fine audiophile grade tube amp and a fine audiophile grade solid state amp are compared side to side, should they not sound exactly the same? If they do not sound the same, I would say one of them, if not both are coloring and/or distorting in some form? I have posed this question to many of my "high end" customers, and have never gotten an answer that satisfies me.....your thoughts?  John

I have thoughts to share down the road.  More Peace, Pinthrift
pinthrift
I've heard some "sterile" tube gear, in fact, I have heard sterile-sounding tubes, and I've also heard warm solid state amps.

I sense he's a cynic, borne from a sort of ignorance, and the question is rhetorical because he already knows the answer.

I believe it’s just a personal choice that is initially made by amp designers, about whether their goal is accuracy or a certain flavored sound recipe that is targeted toward a particular segment of audio equipment consumers. We as consumers then make an almost identical decision about which amp designs best match our personal overall system sound preferences and vote with our dollars.

Personally, I preferred the flavored camp for years, using a VTL with expensive NOS Mullard tubes rolled in, although always paired with various good quality and powerful class AB ss amps due to using inefficient 87dB planar speakers. I’ve always thoroughly enjoyed listening to music via a high quality all tube system, however, they were never my system due to my preference for inefficient planar-magnetic speakers.  Currently, I use a neutral and accurate Parasound Halo P-5 preamp paired with neutral, accurate and powerful ss class D monoblock amps and find the overall sound just as enjoyable.
After migrating from a flavored system to a neutral and accurate system, my main lesson learned is that I perceive both types of systems about equally enjoyable in my room. They both are able to convey the same sweetness, warmth, dimensionality and slightly euphonic nature on most of my familiar music. The only prerequisite on my current neutral and accurate system is that the recording be of high quality, a bad recording will obviously sound like it on my current system.
The main reasons I’ve chosen to remain with a neutral and accurate system are because I have a large collection of mostly very well recorded music, typically hi-res files recorded direct to digital, and because I’m able to so clearly perceive any effects of system changes such as recording quality, component, interconnect and speaker wire changes.

Tim


There are no audio paths through which "nothing" is ever added that wasn't part of the original signal. Vinyl, tubes, transistors, tape, digital, wiring - you name it - all of it can be said to color the sound to one degree or another. It's simply a matter of personal taste as to what, or when, colorations might be preferable, tolerable or offensive and to what degree.

The tech should understand that like anything else in life, it is a preference. Each type of sound sounds more like "the real thing" to each person.

He probably has a firmly held opinion, and that's why he hasn't heard an answer that satisfies him yet. He's waiting to hear his own.

Who says high end audio is only about trying to “faithfully reproduce and amplify the input signal”?

i think high end audio is to reproduce a sound that makes you connect with the music to the greatest extent.  There are many roads to there.