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Why HiFi manufacturers don't make active crossovers anymore?

Hello to all,

On the recent days, I noticed that a lot of manufacturers of Hifi 2 channel systems, had plenty of options in a not so long past, of active crossovers, like Luxman, Accuphase, higher end Sony stuff, and many more, why do you think HiFi manufacturers abandoned the inclusion of active cross overs, channel dividers, in their lineup?

Accuphase still makes a digital one.

Appears that this devices are only still relevant in the Pro Audio world, why Home HifI abandoned the active cross over route? It's correct to assume that?

I think that can be very interesting tri-amp a three way loudspeakers with active cross overs, would like to know more about it too...

Share your thoughts about the subject, experiences in bi-amp and tri-amp with active crossovers and etc....

Thanks!
cosmicjazz
mahlman
433 posts
 
" There is just no freaking way that an expert passive crossover designer could give you that kind of dialed-in precision using caps whose values are stated in nice, even numbers like "1 f" or "300 uf"...caps that only have a certain percentage of accuracy and whose true values vary with temp and lifespan...let alone the fact that different gear will behave differently in different systems with different rooms and different ears - all of which can be compensated for by digital crossovers, EQ, gain and delay and that, practically speaking, just can neither be predicted nor be adjusted for after the fact with passives. "
 100% correct.
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cosmicjazz OP
243 posts
 
Thinking about that can be interest we make a list about HiFi manufacturers that offered active crossovers aka channel dividers (as is described by some HiFi manufacturers from Japan), it can be current models or vintage.

Let’s stay with HiFi manufacturers only, no Pro Audio.

I will start with:

Accuphase
Sony
Pioneer
Luxman
Threshold
Mark Levinson
Cello
Technics? produced any in the past? can’t find..


clio09
3,419 posts
 
You can add the Beveridge RM-3 to the list. Designed by Roger Modjeski of Music Reference when he worked at Beveridge Audio. The active crossover was part of the RM-1, RM2, RM-3 system that linked with the built in OTL amps of the Beveridge 2SW speaker system. I have been using the RM-3 in my system for a few years now. Two way with input cards for high and low pass, bass, and treble controls.
nevillekapadia
99 posts
 
I could comfortably say that the Nelson Pass analog crossovers are one of the top most crossovers that are available. Super flexibility and transparency. And most of all you keep the full chain analog if you are using a TT or any other analog source. 
Of course if you are a streaming/digital only source, then one would consider the other digital crossover options as they are more cost effective. 
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phusis
1,403 posts
 
@mahlman --

That 3060 is what I run too. What do you have for a system? You are right about DIY and pro usage.

Just looked over your setup via your profile - great to see you using all-horns as well. Do you use both systems depicted? 

You can view my system via my profile, only change being that the Crown Macro-Tech 1200 sub amp will be replaced by a Crown K2 in the near future. 
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