shadorne sez ...
- "I believe we should hold component manufacturers to a minimum standard that is certainly higher than what is being accepted."
How much more are you willing to pay for that "higher minimum standard?"
- "If it is necessary then I really think one should question the original quality of the components."
Should equipment manufacturers be responsible for the abnormalities in your room? Abnormalities that can be cured with certain tweaks?
- " I am questioning the fundamental philosophy around building a system. I am not trashing. Just questioning the choices being made. "
As I said above, I could easily improve the sound of your costly system with a few simple suggestions without using any tweaks. Add the tweaks, and your jaw would hit the ground. This, with YOUR existing system, not my system.
- "Should we really accept that an infinite number of tweaks are necessary for equipment to work well? Or should we demand a higher standard?"
That’s two questions. First, yes, we should accept that tweaks are necessary based upon positive reviews that have come before. Manufacturers can’t afford to apply the tweaks mentioned in these threads. For one thing, they don’t even know about many of these tweaks. Even if they did, the price of including them would be about four times what they cost the manufacturer and what they would cost you if you bought them on your own. Everything is marked up along the production and sales line. For example, if it cost a manufacture $2,500 to make a line stage, its sold to the dealer for $5,000. The dealer then retails the unit for $10,000. That’s reality.
Second, yes we should demand a higher standard, and that’s what we do every time we plunk our money down for a component. Manufacturers build within a price point. Don’t want to sound redundant here, but how much more are you willing to pay for that "higher standard?" Most audio manufacturers have "flag ship" components for sale. Buy the "flag ship" models shadorne ... and you still haven’t dealt with room problems, vibration problems or any of the other myriad of problems created throughout this hobby that can be cured by tweaking.
My suggestion is, if you haven’t heard the results of tweaks for yourself shadorne, then do so. Until you do, you’re just flying blind on these pages and talking out of your ....
Oh never mind.
Frank