Perfect Path Technologies: Omega E mat


I’m curious about this product from Perfect Path Technologies and would like to hear from those that have experience with it. I’ve bought and used the Total Contact enhancer and like what it does for my system so I’m interested in hearing how this Omega E mat performs. 
t_ramey

I have ordered two Omega E Mats. My systems are already extensively treated with Total Contact- circuit breaker box, power cords, interconnects, wall outlet connections, and inside most components.

This will be a fun and educational project. They come with a 30 day trial so there is ample time to get a feel for how they affect an already tuned system.

David Pritchard

With 30 day money back trial. I too will at least try. Skip lunch to pay for shipping 

I believe HP said:  “If you have not heard it; You do not have a valid opinion.”
I now have 4 Omegas in my system, that has also been extensively treated with TC. I have one on my main power panel, and one each under my CD Transport, DAC & Amp. It's hard to describe the extensive positive impact they have had. I think the best way to say it is, while listening, I frequently find myself thinking (or even exclaiming out loud); “That sounds so real!” This happens with a wide variety of instruments & vocals, across a wide variety of recordings and musical genres.

The increase in engagement with, and enjoyment of, the music has brought many a smile to my face 😁
Thanks for the replies. I’m down to my last little bit of TC and I haven’t done everything I wanted to yet with it so I’m contemplating ordering another tube before trying the mat.

This mat reminds me of the Tranqulilty base from SR. Wonder if anybody has any experience with that. The Omega E is much more affordable though.
t_ramey

I have one Mat on top of my resolution audio opus21 CD player and it has dropped the noise floor dramatically while making the music more dramatic, impactful and engaging throughout the frequency spectrum. The soundstage is the first thing I immediately noticed after it was installed. The dynamics etc... came one day after it was installed. I will not be removing it. 

I thought that it sounded so good that I ordered a second one for my office system dac.

Enjoying the music,

rc

I’ll try to further clarify my impressions of the the Omega mats in my system:

They certainly bring a substantial increase in resolution, transparency and clarity. What makes them so remarkable, though, is that this doesn't come at the expense of the life, energy and vitality of the music. Often, it seems, one of these sets of attributes is traded off for the other. If you've been in this hobby for a while, you've probably heard a system that has plenty of resolution, transparency and clarity, but is lacking in life, energy and vitality (or maybe vice versa). Having both at the same time, which, IMO, is the ultimate goal, can be quite elusive.

The addition of the Omega mats has greatly enhanced my system's ability to play music with both sets of attributes.

Tommylion,

I just ordered 1 mat and wondering where did you find the mat most and least effective? I contacted Oregonpapa and he recommended the power panel.
Great question ronrags. If I was to get just one mat where would the most benefit come from? I have everything in my system on star sound platforms so I like that the Omega mat is magnetic so if it’s not possible to put on top of a component with tubes it could possibly go underneath. I’m guessing either my DAC or power conditioner that has everything plugged into it would be a good spot. But the panel makes sense too...
@t_ramey Good point concerning the power conditioner since everything is plugged into it. 
Hi all - I see that the Omega E mat thread has had a "reset". Please don't go berserk but I think its only fair to the reader if you tell us whether or not you actually purchased the mat at full price. If you were sent mat(s) free of charge or at a reduced rate with no expectation of them being returned that should be disclosed. For instance, tommylion the 4 mats you discuss you paid $2,400 for and you are not returning them?

About a year ago, Audiocircle had a similar issue come up. Burson Audio was sending people cables free of charge with no expectation they be returned. A number of favorable reviews were published which ended-up being taken down because the board facilitator believed it was a form of payment to the people who wrote the reviews. 

t_ramey - I have Tranquility Bases under all my equipment. They are highly effective for a number of reasons but they don't use magnets in any way. Check-out my system page. 


Will it improve my Kindle experience?

https://www.amazon.com/Celestine-Prophecy-James-Redfield-ebook/dp/B001D08CTW

I have no doubt that you are all extremely familiar with the book.

DeKay
sbayne ...

If a manufacturer were to send a product "free," or at a reduced cost, would that obligate the "tester" to post a positive review? The suspicion that it does is the only reason I can think of for anyone asking the question you did. Its a valid point. 

Another thought ... Nothing is free. Some price must be paid. The same question was addressed to me in the TC thread. My point there was, hey ...if you think that the time spent testing three incarnations of the product, spending countless hours waiting for a break-in to occur, taking copious notes, and then writing a review that goes on for paragraphs isn't payment, then I'd have to ask what you do for a living. Is your time and labor worth nothing? 

And by the way, questioning the payment thing, or even a discount in return for a favorable review, is in a way suggesting that the "tester" is being dishonest. In my case, if anything I reviewed turned out to be bunk, I'd either say so, or I wouldn't say anything at all. 

Also, in reading the last paragraph in your above post, you say the following:

  • " I have Tranquility Bases under all my equipment. They are highly effective for a number of reasons but they don't use magnets in any way."


I have to ask ... were you paid for that review? Did you get the Tranquility Bases at a discount? Did you get them for free? What motivated your positive review? 

Not dissing you in any way. Just trying to spread a little light on the subject.

Take care ...

Frank

Frank, Are you saying that you have paid full tote for all the "tweaks" you have personally promoted, (red, black, blue) fuses, (TC) coagulating fluid, black and blue plugs, now an Omega E mat, of which I have not found any description or image.

Your system must be very bad, or you live under high voltage transmission lines, or perhaps next to a nuclear power plant. With every tweak, your sound floor goes further down, and verified by 'ole mate "Robert". Your sound floor must be way down in the earth where it's pitch black by now. Really? The credibility is starting to stretch a bit thin...

I payed the full amount for the Omega E mats that will arrive Friday. My amplifiers, SACD players, DAC, and Oppo 203 Blue Ray Player are all on Synergistic Research Tranquility Bases. 
I am looking forward to hearing if this new product will improve my system. They are sold with a 30 day return policy so the cost to try is only postage money.
The first one will go inside the circuit breaker box, and the second will initially go on the Pass Lab INT- 60 amplifier.

David Pritchard

@davidpritchard   David, will you be removing the Tranquility Base or using the matt on top of it? Thanks.
I see a 49 post thread on the E mat with content questioning intensive on forum advertising disappear overnight and suddenly my BS detectors start twitching 
I wonder how many they can sell in 30 days?
ronrags,

I agree with Frank that the power panel is where I would start first. This will have a positive effect on all your components, rather than targeting just one. I would then put one under whichever source component(s) you use the most. If, like me, you listen to CDs, and have a separate transport & DAC, I would put one under the transport first, and then the DAC.
I wonder how many they can sell in 30 days?

Dunno. Take the advertising revenue, keep the fanboy threads running, pull any controversial threads. Seems kinda formulaic...
david_ten,
I will be using the Omega E Mat not on top of the Synergistic Research Tranquility base but on top of the component such as the Pass Lab amp.
 
David Pritchard

Mats with money back 30 day trial almost had me.

Reasons to hold back?

Two 2Xs, the Admin. Has removed the thread.

”Painting” TC on the mats? And just about every other piece in your components and electrical panel ?
 
No UL listing. 

Every proponent wants you to except their hearing and opinion as unquestionably honest and Oh so right.

Granted, I have lumped TC and Mats together; So have the proponents. 

First it was a tweak, then equal to a component, then “dubbed” an accessory; now back to a tweak.

Are you guys Sure now? What is it?

First, it was to be placed under your component. Maybe magnetically to the bottom of the component. Now on your electrical panel. Seems to benefit “Digital gear” the most. 

I am am now waiting for the UL listing and 2-3 reviews in the “rags” by known reviewers.

 

oregonpapa (Frank) - Thanks for the cordial response. I don’t think receiving a product for free obligates the receiver to post a favorable review but if the person wants to establish a relationship with the manufacturer and keep the freebies coming they would naturally be inclined to give a very positive review. I would hope a person wouldn’t be dishonest just to get free product but full disclosure allows a reader to make their own judgments.

We see this all the time with "professional" reviewers. They review the same companies over and over consistently spewing-out positive reviews. Toss-in the "reviewers discount" they usually get, the free meals at shows, the in-home delivery/setup/consultation and you’ve got to wonder if the relationship is a little too cozy.

A big reason I like reading "non-professional" reviews is because you assume the person actually bought the product and is not being "paid" in anyway for their time or effort to write the review. This is especially true when a money back guarantee is involved - they have decided it truly was worth investing their own money and didn’t return it.

As to my positive comments on products, I can assure you I’ve paid for all of them except for the Burson Audio cables I reviewed which I now agree Audiocircle correctly nixed.

@davidpritchard  Thank you.
sbayne ...

We seem to be on the same page here.

As far as honesty is concerned, I'll take the word of the folks who have taken the time to post feedback on the Perfect Path ad site over that of a "professional" magazine reviewer any day. 

https://www.audiogon.com/users/perfectpathtech

The magazines very seldom have anything negative to say about any product reviewed. The rave reviews go to the manufacturers who pay for ads in the magazine.

 Another thing to be aware of is the music the "professional" reviewers use to evaluate the equipment being tested. If you check their music out on a source such as Spotify, so much of it is drenched in artificial digital reverb. Its crap. It leaves you wondering how a reviewer can hear what the equipment really sounds like. 

Most of my evaluations are the results of listening to recordings (CD's) burned directly from master tapes, or recordings that have natural sound with little or no processing. It makes a big difference. 

Take care ...

Frank
I'll leave it at that Frank. Carry on.....
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oregonpapa
The magazines very seldom have anything negative to say about any product reviewed. The rave reviews go to the manufacturers who pay for ads in the magazine.

>>>>Huh? There are perfectly good reasons why the major magazines generally won’t post negative reviews. Please give me a break. It has nothing to do with honesty. That’s an old wives tale.

Another thing to be aware of is the music the "professional" reviewers use to evaluate the equipment being tested. If you check their music out on a source such as Spotify, so much of it is drenched in artificial digital reverb. Its crap. It leaves you wondering how a reviewer can hear what the equipment really sounds like.

>>>>What? Never heard of that before. Got any examples? It doesn’t make sense. And if it doesn’t make sense it’s not true. It certainly does not (rpt not) have anything to do with honestly, anyway.

cheers, GK
Many reviewers select excellent music for comparison, well recorded acoustical music, jazz and orchestral and they list their choices.  However, an equal number of reviewers use the "crap" recordings as Frank says that I hear at audio shows.  Patricia Barber, Diana Krall, et. al. are not recordings I want to use to base my audio opinion on and I don't want reviewers to use them either.  I'm sure there are some posters who like that type of recorded music but they shouldn't be using it to make definitive decisions concerning audio equipment.  
I myself have not yet the Omega Matt but have the Total Contact & all I can say is OMG! This treatment has changed my entire system! It taken it to a hole new level, the noise floor is dead quiet, transparency is like I’ve never experienced before! Individual voices and instruments show an extraordinary clarity greater resolving and separation than I’ve ever had! This is no snake oil, this is the real deal and there is no downside to the product! My only wish is that I had the spare change to buy three or four of the Perfect Path Omega Matt’s
fleschler ...

I usually check out any recommended recordings on Spotify before I consider buying them. Many of these recommendations occur here from A'gon members. While some are really good, its always surprising how many "audiophiles" prefer music that sounds like its coming from inside a cave. I guess if the professional reviewers recommend something it must be good. :-)

Frank
ajourney sez:

  • I myself have not yet the Omega Matt but have the Total Contact & all I can say is OMG! This treatment has changed my entire system! It taken it to a hole new level, the noise floor is dead quiet, transparency is like I’ve never experienced before! Individual voices and instruments show an extraordinary clarity greater resolving and separation than I’ve ever had! This is no snake oil, this is the real deal and there is no downside to the product! My only wish is that I had the spare change to buy three or four of the Perfect Path Omega Matt’s


And there’s another rave review from a "private" reviewer. To the naysayers ... how much money did the above poster get to make his claim? Is he a snake-oil salesman? A shill? A con man? Did he get the product for free? Surly, there is something nefarious going on here, right????

ajourney ...

Thanks for the nice words. Tim deserves every bit of the success he’s having with his products. As you can clearly see from your experience, there was no hyping going on. Glad you’re enjoying the TC. The Omega E Mat not only works well with the TC product, but combined together, they will bring an audio system to the point of suspending disbelief.

PS: You only "think" the noise floor is "dead quiet." Wait until you get the Omega E Mats. :-)

Take care ...

Frank

There's a delicate balance when bloggers and writers do their reviews.  It's a unique industry and there are definitely relationships to be managed.  They generally don't like "shootout" type reviews..  Also, some counter thoughts to consider:

- There's some reading in between the lines to really figure out what is being said and more so, not said. If you keep telling me about a girl being really nice, maybe she's not so hot in the looks department...

- Certain topics like talking about value can also give you relative comparisons.  I may like something a lot at a certain price point, but it might not have the performance I'm looking for generally.  

- And there are times where they listen to a product and decline to review it.  Especially if you hear them talk about a product in passing without a formal review.  


"Waiting for the mats to break in", laughable at best.  $600.00 per mat.  If you guys have money to throw away, please send it to me.
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@grannyring...…………………………….

I would never in my life pay 600.00 for a mat to put under a piece of gear. I wouldn’t even consider it. What I stated is my opinion which is just as good as yours. I haven’t heard or seen the mat and never will but that’s my opinion, like it or not. Trust me, I have been "ripped off" many times on tweaks that don’t do as advertised..

You also have no right to lambast me for my statement, especially since I have never done it to you. This is a community forum and everyone is entitled to his or her opinion weather you or anyone else agrees with it or not.
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  • This is a community forum and everyone is entitled to his or her opinion weather you or anyone else agrees with it or not.
^^ Yes, you are entitled to your opinion ... but I don’t recall anyone asking you for it.
  • I would never in my life pay 600.00 for a mat to put under a piece of gear. I wouldn’t even consider it.
Then why are you participating in the thread?
  • Trust me, I have been "ripped off" many times on tweaks that don’t do as advertised.
Me too, but this isn’t one of those products. Read Tim Mrock’s feedback. And how can you be trusted when you post such negative trash about a product you admittedly haven’t heard or seen?

https://www.audiogon.com/users/perfectpathtech

  • I haven’t heard or seen the mat and never will but that’s my opinion, like it or not.

If you haven’t seen or heard the product, then what are you basing your opinion on ... other than BS? If you come into a thread spewing BS, then other members have the right to express their opinions about your BS opinions as well, no? You may consider that difference of opinion "lambasting" you, but what it really is, is calling you out for spewing BS.

Have a nice day, Junior.

Frank
@grannyring  You said "2) you don’t understand the technology and what’s at play here".  Boy are you ever right!  I've tried to follow the "Mat" threads here but do not recall anyone discussing the "technology" at work.  If you have such information I would very much appreciate reading it.  Thanks! 

hifiman5 ...

There won’t be any answers coming your way anytime soon. I don’t think it would be prudent for Tim Mrock to reveal his "technology" in a public forum. You might try sending Tim a PM and ask him how to duplicate his efforts though. He’s a friendly guy ...  so what the hey, give it a shot. *lol*

You can contact Tim here:

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis91864-perfect-path-technologies-omega-e-mat-signal-enhancer-twe...

Good luck ...

Frank
Ha! I wish I did!  I don’t understand many things I enjoy from cell phones to accupuncture😁

Nevertheless I use and enjoy all kinds of technology I don’t fully understand.  I have yet to try this product so have given no review or opinion.  How could I? My mind remains open based on the many things in life I enjoy but don’t understand.  My beautiful wife for another!
@oregonpapa @grannyring   Gotcha!  I wasn't expecting details as it would not be to Tim's benefit to make them public here.  I was just looking for a basic premise that the Mat's design is based on.  Thanks!
It’s not based on crack, is it? 
If it was based on mushrooms or DMT I would have ordered one already.
grannyring ...

  • I was just looking for a basic premise that the Mat’s design is based on. Thanks!


Tim is being very tight-lipped on the Omega E Mats. Its not TC, according to Tim. These things (mats) seem to have a life of their own. I’m beginning to think that Tim Mrock is divinely inspired.

No Geoff, its not crack. However, if you recall, there was one naysayer in the TC thread that claimed he applied TC to his sphincter. I continually asked him what benefits he found from pasting his sphincter with TC, but never received an answer. I could be wrong, but was it "slaw?" :-)

Frank
Where's the Amazing Randy when you need him?
I have a sincere point I’d like to present to Frank (Oregonpapa) for his consideration.

Frank had mentioned in a recent post that he recently had a pacemaker installed. It so happens that today I set up an unconventionally designed Dyson fan in my wife’s study. Its manual states as follows:

WARNING
THE FAN AND THE REMOTE CONTROL BOTH CONTAIN MAGNETS.
Pacemakers and defibrillators may be affected by strong magnetic fields. If you or someone in your household has a pacemaker or defibrillator, avoid placing the remote control in a pocket or near to the device.
The magnet in the very small remote control that is cautioned about is intended to hold the control on the top of the fan when it is not being used, and it is weak enough to exert no force that I can detect if it is more than 1/2 inch from a ferrous surface.

Might this mat result in a similar or even more significant concern in Frank’s case?

Regards,
-- Al
@grannyring..........
I said in a forum post there were 8 posts of a mat for sale in the for sale ads.   I never tried to shut down a forum thread on it and I never complained to Audiogon. Please get the facts right. I am not going to get into a pissing match over this with you.  Let’s agree to disagree.

@oregonpapa .................
How rude of me to respond to a thread without being asked, I didn’t realize the rules were changed.
I don't understand trolls.  In the stock market, short position holders spew disinformation to drive the stock price down, sometimes killing the company.  Here, what does a troll get out of knocking products they have no intention of trying?  They have a screw loose.  
Al ...

Thanks for the input regarding the magnets. I appreciate your concern. I have a doctor's appt. this next week to adjust the pacemaker. I'll discuss it with him and see what he says and report back here on the results. 

stereo5 sez ...

  • How rude of me to respond to a thread without being asked, I didn’t realize the rules were changed. 

No problem. You're forgiven. You may want to try an E Mat or two using the guarantee. You may be pleasantly surprised.

Frank
How in the world can anybody just make a statement like " I will never spend $600 on a mat" and then expect to be taken seriously when the thread is about said mats?
All you can state is you will not be trying it and that is it, you cannot even begin to criticize its efficiency or value to your system if you have such a negative dogmatic attitude right out of the gate.
Of course everybody is entitled to their own opinion but all that opinion will ever be is a un informed and prejudicial one.
Just my thoughts......