Ralph we know about that trick, what you said is that having multiple
speakers in the room completely invalidates the results, when they
don't.
Actually it does. The problem is that all the cabinets act as bass traps, whether their respective woofers are shorted or not.
This is correct Ralph, and does work to a degree, and only if the bass unit is not cap coupled.
Actually it works whether there is a cap or not. But only to a degree, as you say.
But I was waiting for the light to come on from Audiotroy to tell us he does this, which never happened.
So his knowledge of this and having multiple speakers in the room to demo to the detriment of the sound is limited.
I can't be sure of the latter, but to the former it was pretty obvious that this was not 'old news' despite his remonstrations.
what is fact vs opinion? Everything in life is pretty much an opinion when it comes to subjective products.
Its not that simple, fortunately. The only reason there is a subjective aspect is simply because the audio industry in general does not recognize many of the physiological aspects of human hearing and so has not devised a test.
That is likely not going to change anytime soon since many of the aspects of my previous statement cause debates all over the web that aren't going to go away anytime soon. But it is a false statement to assume that all things are that subjective- if we understand how the ear works, its a simple matter to apply engineering to solve the issue at hand. That means there is math and stuff...
This is precisely why we've avoided using feedback in our amps and seen reduced market share as a result. Its not because we don't want to sell amps- we do- its just that we want them to sound like real music when installed, and that's not going to happen if the speaker requires the amp to use a lot of feedback.
Such a speaker will only ever sound like a nice stereo. We don't want our amps doing that- we want them to sound real.
It all comes out of engineering and don't think for a second that its all somehow opinion!
