Any news about new DD/DTS upgrade on HDDVD?

Rysa is correct...I bought a Toshiba hd dvd player...and the audio via coax or analog is down 8-10 db and sounds very undynamic with weak bass.
SD DVD sounds far better...and the only way to get good audio from the Toshiba...is via an hdmi receiver/pre/pro.

Also...your processor or receiver will read this DD+ as DTS audio , which is not even on the disc.

What a mess...because if I were to run out and buy an hdmi reciever...it would be outdated in a few months buy hdmi 1.3.

Expect massive returns on these Toshiba players if theres not a fix quickly.

WHAT A BUNCH OF BONE HEADS!!!!!!!....lol. Amazing. Gread and more gread seems to be one of the root cause to a lot of this. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaatever. Yeah, I don't doubt you'll see the new players lag in sales greatly for the next couple of years.

My only comment is that the Hi Def DVDs being released are supposed to have Dolby 5.1 and DTS 5.1 also as options and they should sound the same as SD dvd soundtracks.

I have never had a complaint about the quality of current DVD soundtracks and really find them pretty enjoyable.

I look forward to the day/year etc when HDMI 1.3 connects/chipsets are present on all devices,,,...until then I am just gonnan hang out a bit and enjoy what I have...

Rysa...the first titles don't have DTS, in any form, there supposed to play regular DD via analog...but this is actually DD+ which displays as DTS via coax or optical...confusing right?

Any way, I don't have an hdmi audio option , but managed to get DD+ via analog 5.1, and it does sound much better than regular DD/DTS,although its also a bit down on db,its no where near 15 db down, like when using coaxial and optical, and the problem seems to be on Warner movies only so far.

Something really ironic is the fact that everyone thought the Toshiba hd dvd players would playback DTS-HD, with there built in DTS-HD decoders....but they will never playback DTS -HD....but rather just core DTS.

I guess we all have to read the fine print on these new formats.

"Any way, I don't have an hdmi audio option , but managed to get DD+ via analog 5.1, and it does sound much better than regular DD/DTS,although its also a bit down on db" (Ears)

Ears, describe "much better" please! How so? Sounds to me like it's the same limitations connecting this way as before, only with perhaps more potential resolution. I've never gotten good results connecting to the analog out's of a dvd player, and playing DD/DTS! PCM 2 channel? Now that's another story entirely!