Rogue vs ARC

Hi
I own Rogue M150's,Magnum 99 pre and Zeus .I am very happy with the sound of the equipment the customer service provided by Rogue Audio and as far as build quality,well the Zeus is a monster amp weighting close to 220lbs, with heavy 3/4" aluminum faceplate and all 1/2" thick aluminum casework.Very well build amp.I also happen to own the ARC LS3B preamp on a second system and that too is good equipment.For those bashing Rogue I say that's very unfair.
Regards
George

only sane thread ? depends on what your idea of crazy is. at a friends we had a shootout between arc hd220 vs rogue apollo monos both at ten grand, the rogues KILLED the hd 220 it was not even close, and in every way , from top to bottom. there, I said it.

My Rogue amps aren't for sale, and I've owned them a few years now. The ARC gear could be better?...I don't know... (but when I'm happy with a components sound, I don't care.)

As far as sound:

I've found the the Rogue amps have the "best quality" of solid state, blended with the "best quality" of tubes, or as you put it "modern tube sound"

Dave

If I won the lotto , a ARC ref 5, ref phono, and a pair of ref 210s might be in my future, but alas, I dont have such deep pockets yet. so the Rogue m150s stay, and make great music at my place. check out the Rogue m180 review in stereophile, a total rave.

ARC builds nice equipment, but their house sound is also a love/hate relationship. I have owned their upper end pre amps and older VT series power amps, I don't miss them either.

Like Chrissain pointed out, what great built quality when you are forced to bias 4 or 8 tubes with 1 trim pot? in addition, when a tube goes it will take out some resistors. I know better sounding amp that has fuse in the circuit and does not require soldering resistor everytime a tube arcs.

not here to bash ARC, though I don't care for the sound, but Don should learn to respect other products and back up his assault with real words.

and yes, I am an engineer too with many years of audiophile experiences.