I haven't ever been in front of a Magnepan speaker and the closest dealer is several hours from me. I am a big Audio Research fan and the fact that Warren had the 20.7s and has since upgraded to the 30.7s makes me feel that is where I should be. Long ago he had Wilson Audio so there is obviously that lure as well.
I see a cartoon image of Larry in his great room with huge disproportionate ears and the Maggies nearly touching as if he is wearing headphones :)
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But, gawd.... you don't need Viagra....
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You listen to your 20.7's at 5' distance? that's not nearfield listening, that's being Intimate!. lol
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hi guys.
how much costs these now - used or ex-demo?
offered a ex-demo pair
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+1 on the Sanders Magtech driving Maggies well. Supposedly, the Merrill Veritas monoblocks are even better. |
One other option that is not expensive is to use Mye stands with your 20.7s, have you heard of them? www.myesound.com These really do work by making the frame more rigid, I did them for my 3.7s and now the 20.7s. I agree with you about how revealing the Maggies are, tube rolling can be a lot of fun and allow for nice tuning, I have a MC C1100 that I have added NOS tubs for the preamp side (not the MM/MC tubes) and a tube based DAC (modwright elyse) and both efforts payed off. I prefer tubes in the front end and solid state on the amp side, its hard to get enough power for the Maggies out of a tube amp while the tubes on the front side really sweeten the sound. Brett |
Bret thanks for the comments. The amp I'm using is the LSA Statement, a company I founded a few years back. It pretty much doubles into 4 and 2 ohm resistance, which is to say, it has a great power supply. I wouldn't deign to compare it to the Magtech, which I haven't heard. Knowing Mr. Sanders' work, I'm sure its AMAZING.
The bass that this LSA produces in my room, is tuneful and very well balanced for me. I am, as I pointed out, a near field listener so, big powerful bass is not as important to me, as sound staging and realism of tonality. BTW I just got new tubes from Brent Jessee Recording, the NOS 7308's I believe and it was transformative. Our Maggies, Brett are so revealing, that any change is immediately obvious. I love them probably as much as you do.
Good Listening,
Larry
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The 20.7s can do base very well, however, it takes an amp with a really good power supply. I have experimented with many amps & configurations over the years and every upgrade paid off, some of them surprising. You mention that you have a 150 hybrid amplifier (integrated), unfortunately, that is not going to be enough to push the 20.7 base panels. When I first got my 20.7s (replacing 3.7s) I had a Mcintosh 452 and thought that would be plenty of power, it wasn't. I next tried 2 MC601's which were pretty much the same as the 452. While I had the 601s I ordered a Sanders Magtech and set it up to compare. The difference was unbelievable! There was the base I had been looking for along with everything else, the Magtech completely blew the Mc's out of the water in every way. I have another friend who also has 20.7s and loved the Mactech on my system so much he got one too. Give Roger a call and try one for 30 days, you won't be disappointed.
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I would love to hear those from 5 feet away. Must be enveloping, fast, and dynamic. Have fun!
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bdp24 and bobheinatz,
My speakers were maximized for video, since I have an 80 Flatscreen.
Yet, after experimentation, I placed them a tiny bit less than 8' apart, angled in about 45 degrees. At my couch tweeters (placed inside) cross me perfectly. At my listening distance of 5', it works wonderfully.
5' is so good (for my taste) in this room. I simply move a comfortable chair into place.
Bob, I'm a little older than you, 67, and God blessed me with great ears, (or cursed me, lol). So, I still hear the upper levels. Of course I try to take great care of them. I take baths in very warm water, submerging my head, allowing the warm water to stay in my ears for a bit, before letting it drain. Probably TMI, but that has served me for my whole life.
For me, guys, there is NOTHING more involving than great music.
BTW, I also have a couple of novels published, that's my only other great love of life, other than my wife Pat.
Good listening, and thanks for the comments.
Larry
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Sounds like a perfect setting to listen in. I also prefer near field listening but I think for me it might be my hearing at 63.
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Larry, what do you consider near field distance? I listen at 8' from speakers usually, anything closer being what I consider near field. But big panels like Maggies make the same distance seem closer than do smaller speakers. |
Bob,
Thanks. I got trolled so many times I simply went away.
This post is hardly a review, just some comments.
Yeah, my room: You walk into the house, look straight back through and there's a pool in a screened enclosure, with a huge lake behind it. It really is a Great Room.The speakers are so good. I really prefer near field listening, and for my taste, the Maggies have a perfect distance from the listener AND the rear wall. When you hit that 'sweet spot' it can be magic.
Thanks for the comment Bob.
Larry |
Wish I had a room that size. The 20.7's are wonderful speakers. Good to see you on Audiogon.
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I heard the old Tympani's more than 30 years ago. They were and are amazing. I completely agree that the bass they recreate is wonderful. In a way, one of my favorite aspects of the Maggies is their very tuneful bass.
Thanks for the response.
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Irsky, since you have a large room and would like more bass slam, add a pair of the old Magneplanar Tympani T-IV or T-IVa bass panels to your MG20.7's. There's nothing like Tympani bass! |
