Jazz for aficionados
Alex, "Ike Quebec" is the only artist I have everything that is and is not available by. When you listen to Ike, I might be listening to the same thing no matter what you're listening to, and I listen to the one's you submitted a lot. Correction Alex, I know I have the LP, "Congo Lament"; yes, that same "Easy Living" is on "Congo Lament", and as far as I'm concerned it's one of the best if not "the best". Enjoy the music. |
"Eumir Deodato" is an interesting musician (I don't know why I think of some kind of big bird everytime I hear first name). While not an icon of jazz, he made some interesting music in the 70's I was listening to and still like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5dLWFb50To https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwMAfSfRbDU Those are my two favorite albums by Dodato, they bring back memories and make for good listening, also when I checked his "bio" it seems he's quite a musician whose been involved with quite a few artists in my collection, and he's still active. Enjoy the music. |
Orpheus, if you dont have it already, try to hear 'Easay Living' album of Ike Quebec. Not the one that is often mentioned. He plays along Turrentine,G. Green, S.Clark. Here are some clips https://youtu.be/nQKC5jL_0lQ https://youtu.be/zSp8HBwl2JA My favourite is 'Soul Samba' https://youtu.be/1uY6zlfR7pM |
Today I listened to Wynton Marsalis' ALL RISE. ( 2CD Set) I think I will have to listen again and again, before I can say anything. It's brilliant. I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ep5UxidC1k Cheers |
Abdullah Ibrahim -- Very good. The bass player played a role similar to the role the snare drummer plays in Bolero. But he didn't falter. The next Tune up was "little Boy" from the album "Voice of Africa. Also Excellent. Abdullah Ibrahim and Hugh Masekela ARE African Jazz. Both so uplifting. Of course, their music is of African Origin, and sounds like it. The question is, what is it about about the music that says it African?? The same question could be asked about Spainj and other Countries. *****Rok, have you noticed I'm making a lot of mistakes***** Is this supposed to be 'Breaking News' ? :) Nice Posts. Cheers |
"Abdullah Ibrahem", these are sounds of the Sahara, "Somebody go fetch my camel"! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xEmfQ-g4mc Enjoy the music. |
Rok, have you noticed I'm making a lot of mistakes I never used to make? I believe Milt Hinton has identified the reason why. Here's what should have been on my last post, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwc1bTn7Fd8 Enjoy the music. |
Milt Hinton: Another great from the State of Mississippi. Where would music in this country be without Mississippi? Guess we would all be jamming and dancing to the Beer Barrel Polka. Nice clip. Nice Joke about the cemetary. That's one reason I try to stay away from those places. You are correct about great music never aging. Great Art never ages. Some folks seem to think music is like Science & Technology, the newer the better. Wrong answer. Music is Art. The Mona Lisa, LvB's 9th, West End Blues etc...... will be great forever! And as they say, that's a long, long time. Cheers |
Rok, fortunately, good music never gets old, that music is just as young as it was the day I bought it. Here's another artist, "Ike Quebec" I was into at that time. Ike didn't make his best music alone, he had some very good help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Soul_(Ike_Quebec_album) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Soul_(Ike_Quebec_album) Milt Hinton, is someone we haven't discussed; he was the bassist on "Heavy Soul". If we haven't discussed him, that means he didn't get enough recognition. While we can't change the past, we can rectify our oversight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vicYoVsg0 Enjoy the music. |
*****I bought that at the BX on Scott AFB in 1960. My favorite cuts are "Sandra's Blues", and "Indians Blues"; that's as good as it gets.***** Are you saying you purchased this album, 55 years before I did? Good Grief! :) I now understand why so much of the stuff I like, you find boring. You were there long before me. Indian and Sandra are my favorites also. Cheers |
I piped R & B in Jazzy Groove, into the big rig to enjoy the sonics. I've heard that intro into "Night Life" by Dakota a million and 1 times live by different blues bands, on different tunes, and although it was the same, it still sounded good. "Our Day will Come" made me want to hear "Ruby and The Romantics"; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q1HaofSVu8 Enjoy the music. |
George Russell -- SEVEN CLASSIC ALBUMS Muli-CD package. Four Discs. Sound quality excellent on all discs. Same level of sound quality as the "100 Greatest Jazz Tunes of the 1950's". The music is mostly big band. All arrangements by George Russell. Disc #1 is the most straight ahead of the discs. The players are mainstream greats. Art Farmer and Doc Severinson on trumpet. Also includes Coltrane and Evans. Vocals by Jon Hendricks. I liked the first disc. Every time Hendricks said "New York, New York" I would say "the Biggggggggg Apple". :) Remember the Last Poets? The other three disc are more 'avant-garde or experimental or modern. Not the worst I have heard. It does not irritate, just not my favorite stuff. You and Acman3 might like it. You guys are way more 'progressive' than I am. The Trumpet is now Don Ellis. hmmmmmmm. Even Eric Dolphy makes an appearance. I was not that familiar with the groups playing on the last three disc. Interesting take on "You are my Sunshine" on the last disc. If you like the 'modern' stuff, you might like George Russell. I also just received "Gene Harris and The Three Sounds at the IT Club". Much more my style. Cheers |
Houston Person, one of my favorites. I love him on this CD. Glad to see it's finally on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiE2ZPEp0pY Everyone should own this CD. Check out the B3! No muffled sounds here. Listen at 9:21 on "what's Going on" If you don't just shout YES!!! Git outta Jazz!! Every track awesome! Cheers |
Rok, offhand, I don't remember the comment you made, but I understood where you were coming from; I don't like all of Bird's Bop, but I knew this was very special, and you would enjoy it. Maybe you do have a clear picture; Bird recorded a lot of music with a lot of people, and some days were better than others, that CD said Birds "Best Bop", and that said it all. Here are two guys who have teamed up a lot through the years and they sound good each time, they have a certain chemistry together. There are several here that cover a span of time, I only selected one, and while they've aged, they still seem young musically. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGjMojMh-FM Enjoy the music. |
BIRD'S BEST BOP on Verve Outstanding!!! The best I have ever heard from Bird. I need to make it a point to listen and read more about Parker. For some reason I don't have a clear picture of Bird or Dizzy. The line up includes anyone who is anyone. Even Miles. Fascinating and often funny notes by Phil Woods. The story where Bird asked Woods "have you eaten today", gives us a peek into the real world of being a Jazz musician. The Cd is in mono, which is not a criticism. Excellent sound quality. It passed a major test with me, I listened to the entire CD non-stop, twice!! I felt I got a sense of why this music was 'new'. It really draws you in. Thanks for the recommendation. |
Rok, if Silver played a bad tune, I haven't heard it. Although I have a lot of Silver, I never realized how much I don't have before now. I believe you're going to change the snap judgment you made on "Birds Best Bop". Let me know how good the recording quality is on George Russel. Listen to "Silver's" The Outlaw, and imagine "Billy the KId" riding hard and fast across the wastelands trying to outrun the posse, while listening. I heard a long interview done with Horace Silver by a local DJ, and I was amazed at how articulate he was; without a doubt he took more than just music when he went to school, and he could really tell a funny story; this was the best jazz musician interview I've heard. He told a funny story about his bass player, that I think I told before; about his bass player who was tired of playing "Bing Bong" repetitively. If you don't remember I'll tell it again. Enjoy the music. |
O-10: Very nice Silver. Did he ever play a bad tune? I let the computer/youtube run, and it seems like it played Silver all day. Including this tune. Very nice tune considering his outfit. Sort of like Sinbad Miles in appearance, but the music is better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6o6DhBLn_s&list=RDr2A-xMlobhQ&index=3 Today I received "Bird's Best Bop on Verve" and The George Russell "Seven Classic Albums". Will report later. Cheers |
This is "Horace Silver" at Newport In 58. He was too advanced for words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2A-xMlobhQ I have the record, but that cut is much too short. Enjoy the music. |
Never did care for Miami Vice. Just a little too intense for my tastes. When you hear Miami, you think beach, bikinis and Babes. Too much of this show was shot at night, and you saw very little of Miami. I guess they had to shoot it in the more deserted parts of the city in order to be able to drive the car they way they did. The Music was spot on, considering the mood/tone of the show. My taste in crime runs more towards 'Columbo' and 'Murder She Wrote'. In the earlyu 70's I was in Germany making the world safe for Corporate America, ooops, I mean, making the world safe for democracy. Sorry. I left Atlanta in 1966, never more to return. The Military offered the entire world. Atlanta was a pretty nice place then. Don't know about now. Cheers |
Never did care for Miami Vice. Just a little too intense for my tastes. When you hear Miami, you think beach, bikinis and Babes. Too much of this show was shot at night, and you saw very little of Miami. I guess they had to shoot it in the more deserted parts of the city in order to be able to drive the car they way they did. The Music was spot on, considering the mood/tone of the show. My taste in crime runs more towards 'Columbo' and 'Murder She Wrote'. In the earlyu 70's I was in Germany making the world safe for Corporate America, ooops, I mean, making the world safe for democracy. I left Atlanta in 1966, never more to return. The Military offered the entire wo |
Rok, funny that you should mention "Madam Corrine" when I was looking at this episode on "Miami Vice" about voodoo. I liked everything about "Miami Vice", the night life, fast sport cars, and lots of fast ladies. I lived Miami Vice in real time in Atlanta in the early 70's; that town had the best night life of any city I've ever been to, you were there in the early 70's. Here's "Tale Of The Goat" from Miami Vice, along with some of the best music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AUvMqblK-Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQmba21VeW4 Enjoy the music. |
Frogman, "Ditto" on what Rok posted, you're very much appreciated here. Rok, E. S. P. is one of the albums that's mentioned in regard to modal jazz, and there are a lot of photographs of miles shown while this music is playing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajQsZPf2Mb4 Although I never met Miles personally, or talked to any of the musicians he played with, I knew a lot of people who grew up with Miles, and I didn't even know this until his autobiography came out. Vernon Davis's, Miles brother, was always out on the town and I knew him a long time before I knew he was Miles brother; although I used to wonder where he got all those way out clothes ( they were the same size). I had an uncle who used to call me at 2:00AM when he was into his "Courvoisier" brandy, and talk through what was left of the night. Once he asked me if I was a Miles fan, when I responded yes, the next question was would I like to meet him. After he told me he could arrange that, I figured it was the brandy talking, and went on to something else. It was only after reading Miles autobiography that I discovered they were "buddy buddy" when Miles was growing up, and he could have called and asked when Miles had some free time in New York, and arranged a get together. As I'm looking at these photographs, I'm realizing Miles had a side to his personality that's never mentioned; he kept that side separate from the musicians he worked with and the public. All of the people I knew, who knew Miles, said he was just a regular person, no quirkiness or anything. I guess every celebrity has that side that longs not to be a celebrity, but the guy you grew up with next door. Enjoy the music. |
The Frogman: Excellent Posts on Modal Jazz. I may have to take a class at the local community college. I hope you know how much we appreciate the time and effort you take to be thorough and accurate. I did some reading and found a site with a list of modal tunes by many different people. I noticed there were no 'Standards' listed. Which leads me to what may be a stupid question. Can be-bop tunes be played using the modal concept, and can modal tunes be played as be-bop. i.e., can we be-bop Maiden Voyage and Modal Tunisia? If this is stupid, just act as if O-10 asked the question. Everything you ever wanted to know, and more, about Miles, Coltrane, Evans and modal. Nice short history. http://www.wwnorton.com/college/music/jazz/ch/14/outline.aspx Cheers |
Love Hank Mobley; probably the most under appreciated tenor player ever. Great album of, yes, modal hard-bop tunes: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ndqxk5J-VHQ |
The importance of Russell's Lydian concept cannot be overestimated. What I alluded to earlier re the presence of Coltrane at the recording session of "Manhattan" has to do with the influence that this concept had on the shaping of the playing styles of giants like Trane and Miles. 1959 has sometimes been called the most creative year in recorded jazz, and while it's probably not possible to pinpoint one actual year, there is no doubt that during the late 50's there was a creative hurricane going on. Russell's Lydian concept would influence players like Trane and Miles, but I also have no doubt that Russell chose Trane for the session because of where his playing was going independent of anything else; kindred spirits of sorts. It is certainly no coincidence that Trane was chosen for the session (Stan Getz was also very hot during that time, but he was not chosen, nor would have been appropriate for the session). Modal jazz was one of the products of this creative revolution and the impact on the direction of jazz is huge. In answer to Rok's question "Where is modal jazz in today's scene?", the answer is: EVERYWHERE. First of all, the influence of Trane's playing style, a direct product of or use of modal theory, can be heard in the playing of just about every contemporary player today; especially, and obviously, in the playing of saxophone players; not necessarily in the playing styles of the "retro" players (LCJO guys) so much. Second of all, for whatever it may be worth to some, jazz–rock practically owes its existence to modal jazz. This is one of the best and easiest to understand explanations of modes and modal jazz: http://www.scena.org/lsm/sm8-3/Modal_Jazz.htm Russell's "Manhattan": First of all! WHAT A BAND! The personnel list is amazing. Not only is Trane's presence interesting, but notice how he tamed his normally much more aggressive and brighter tone (even in the 50's) to better fit the musical vibe of the session. I hear the influence of Ellington in how Russell uses the different instrumental sections of the band; but, with a more modern harmonic sensibility in the chord voicings. The feeling that Russell's approach (modal) evokes is one of the music being "suspended" harmonically with less obviously forward movement (harmonically) and less obvious need to resolve harmonically. To my ears this is a characteristic of modal music in general and creates a "cooler" feeling. For a very simplistic example of this feeling sing: "Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear O-10"; then, start the song again without finishing it with the last (and harmonically resolving) "happy birthday to you". Some very interesting reading that relates to George Russell, the academic setting that was an integral part of the modal jazz movement, and one of this thread's favorite topics: the unsung hero: http://indianapublicmedia.org/nightlights/tenor-saxophonist-david-young-rip/ http://indianapublicmedia.org/nightlights/when-russell-met-baker/ One of my favorite modal tunes. Dorian mode and as is typical in modal music, few chord changes (four chords in AABA form): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hwmRQ0PBtXU |
Just to refresh everyone's memory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH10ndmE_8g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJkKNc0bP-o Cheers |
Once, when i was in a used record store, a man and I started talking about Jazz. I told him I was new to Jazz and barely knew anything. He said, " if you buy anything today, buy George Russell"s recording Stratasphunk" I plunked down my $3.99. Sweet! http://www.youtube.com/watch/?v=g1feYNzVunI |
On Ran Blakes latest record,( sorry no YouTube yet), Ghost Tones, " Portraits of George Russell" there is a story of when Russell's recording " Jazz Workshop" went out of print in 1959, Ran Blake went around getting jazz people to commit to purchase it if RCA- Victor would re-release it. The people who signed it are a who's who of Jazz. Some are Jaki Byard, Ornette Coleman, Chris Connor, Bill Dixon, Eric Dolphy, Sweets Edison, Nesuhi Ertegun, Gil Evans, Jimmie Giuffre, Charles Mingus, JJ Johnson, Baroness Kathleen Annie Pannonica Rothschild , Barbara, Nellie, TS, and Thelonious Monk, and so many more. They have copies of the actual sheets and it is very cool to look through the signatures. RCA producer George Avakian replied that he would forward the list to higher ups. It wasn't released until 1987. |
That's what happens when you're in a hurry. This is what should have happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylXk1LBvIqU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03juO5oS2gg Enjoy the music. |
Here are examples of the music "So What" by Miles and "Impressions" by Trane. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylXk1LBvIqU[url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03juO5oS2gg>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k94zDsJ-JMU[url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylXk1LBvIqU[url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03juO5oS2gg Enjoy the music. |
Modal Jazz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_jazz This is what George Russell is known for. As usual, it seems as if no one person is solely responsible for innovations. Started in Puerto Rico?? Frogman, Where is 'Modal Jazz' in today's Jazz scene ? Cheers |
Frogman, this is the cut Rok spoke of, it's pretty good. Is there anything academic on this record you would care to point out? The recording quality is exceptional, all things considered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yGof9LU73c This is what you posted on another thread, I like it; this connects with something in the back of my mind that I'll have to catch up with; the bottom line is we never got real Cuban music over here, just some kind of filtered jive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjpFi9NRNM&app=desktop I'm thinking about going into the best jazz bass player next. This came to me when I was listening to the reel, and thought "that guy on bass is out of sight" and I still don't know who it was. As I explained before, I listen to my PC play list, and reel a lot, therefore I don't have who I'm listening to in front of me. It seems I'm stymied by bass players more than on any other instrument. Best composer who plays bass, might not translate into best bass payer; Just a thought. Enjoy the music. |
Re George Russell: ****I never heard of him....**** Actually, George Russell has been mentioned at least twice on this thread. A while back I posted a clip of the TV show "The Subject Is Jazz" from the '50's and which featured a band led by Billy Taylor. The episode I posted included an interview with George Russell in which he discussed his Lydian chromatic concept. Imagine a TT show that discussed jazz theory! How the public has been dumbed down re the arts. The other time the actual mention was not by me, but by Phil Woods. In the clip that I posted of a Phil Woods master class, he talks about the origin of the rumor that he had and played Charlie Parker's horn. Apparently, George Russell erroneously mentioned in a book that he wrote that Woods had Bird's alto. Woods used to tell a very funny story about being fed up of setting the record straight, and finally when his wife Chan (Bird's widow) sold the horn to a museum for $140,000, when asked he would respond: "I only have a couple left...would you like to buy one?" :) |
Rok, I can hear one of my childhood friends laughing 0n that record; he must have painted a mustache and wore a big hat to get in the Pershing because he definitely wasn't old enough. I would know that "donkey" laugh of his anywhere. I don't know exactly where on the record this appears, but listen for an unmistakable "donkey" laugh and you'll know that's him. You most certainly would not have minded getting kidnapped by "Legba's" lady who "Tubs" tried to rescue, she was incredibly beautiful; look it up on "you tube". I never heard of "George Russel", but I will see what I can find by him; what I found by him on "you tube" sure sounded good. From what I read, that you pointed out, he was most certainly what you would call a musical genius in the academic sense. Enjoy the music. |
Listened to an old favorite today. "The 100 Best Jazz Tunes of the 1950's" Played disc #7. All Great tunes. One was by George Russell, "Manhattan". I Googled to find out who is/was George Russell. This guy is one of the most important figures in Jazz. You should Google him and learn his story. Reading about him makes you want to know more about music in an academic sense. Nuts and Bolts??? :) The 100 best tunes could be the only Jazz CDs a person needs. Great Music and Sound. Cheers |
*****I only realized from your posts how important "Nawlins" is to our musical heritage***** It's importance cannot be overstated. Not only did Jazz begin there, it is possible, that it was the ONLY place it could have been created. You could say Nawlins was the perfectly blended Gumbo. Just enough of the bad and the good. Too much of the bad, and we would not have progressed beyond the Blues. Too much of the good, and Jelly Roll and the guys would have been playing Sousa. Cheers |
This is just fun and wonderful!!!! Check out their other links. How music should be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c9-poC5HGw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qElrmDDjn6o Cheers |
