Does JBL get a bad rap?


For years, all one heard regarding almost any JBL product, especially vintage consumer grade products was that they were all boom(bass) and sizzle( highs). I feel this is an unfair generalization. Surprisingly, I find much of their budget minded gear(80s-90s) actually soft in the treble and very non-fatiguing(titanium laminate tweeters). I also have experienced the L100T and found them fairly well balanced and nuetral. The midrange does lack some realism magic especially on vocals but so do other highly touted speakers. In short, I am a little late to the game in regards to the JBL, but as a mainstream maker I am impressed. And that doesn't even take into account their 4xxx studio monitors which are highly regarded. Back me up jbl fans!
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I have some JBL L-7 vintage 1992 speakers that retailed for $2,000.00, I first bought them in 2012 to flip for more money because they were in brand new condition when I got them, which was unbelievable for the age of them, I hooked them up to a fricken walmart RCA small all in one unit, I could not believe what I heard and the huge sound stage presatation, today, I removed the stock bi-amp plate and inserted Tara labs Omega jumper cables and the speakers are now hooked to a modded krell 700cx amp with Tara labs zero gold interconnects and omega gold speaker cables untill I get my hands on the discontinued JBL Everest DD-66000 or the new top of the line JBL Everest DD-67000 speakers, however, I will be keeping the vintage JBL-L7 speakers, BTW, they have the titanium laminate tweeters, the bass is none boomy period, rather for 30hz, the best I have ever heard considering what my cables do for them, these JBL-L7 speakers have a natural open well balanced tone, I am still scratching my head as to why these speakers are that good, cheers
Hi Nonoise, that was a great!, I enjoyed your link, It appears this speaker might have been the beginning of the JBL synthesis model line of today?, the appearance is strikingly exactly like the cost no object JBL speaker line of today, check out the similiarity's of the JBL-DD Everest 67000 speakers and the JBL 4429 you are speaking of, Happy Listening.
mattmiller, I do not know if you are aware of the new JBL Everest DD-67000 speakers, research them please, they are considered one of the BEST speakers in the world for home audio, go and listen to them too, you will have a total new out look on JBL, These speakers retail for $75,000.00!
Dave_72, yeah, I was just checking out that new model to the JBL line up, the affordable S3900 speakers, very big bang for the money, these will out compete much more exspensive speakers by well known brands out there, seems JBL recently revamped there cost no object line of speakers, Dave, have you ever had the chance to listen to the K29900 speakers?
Hi mattmiller, believe it or not, there really is not a whole lot of people who know about the current cost no object JBL line of speakers, they are not on the JBL mass produced speakers internet site, this JBL line that Dave_72 speaks of is an entirely different and seperate JBL company that is under the JBL umbrella, I was not tring to offend you, as a matter of fact, I never heard of these top high-end JBL speakers untill 2012 myself,This JBL line of speakers is still not getting the buzz here in the u.s.a. like they do world-wide, the japenesse love this line of JBL speakers, so I do not believe it is uncommon for someone to ask if they have heard of this line of JBL speakers, cheers.
Hi Rja, The cost no object line as I call it from JBL is at some of the best brick and mortar shops across the country, of course, I rather you go and listen to the top flagship Everest DD-67000 speakers first to get your interest kicking, then work your way down the model line to the more affordable models with in the same model line, as you can read from Dave_72's post above, Dave list the entire line of the speciality JBL speakers, a couple of models are new as of last year, cheers.
Great post Dave_72, However, I believe their is no such thing as the best speakers anyway, personal tast for sound plays part of each audiophiles quest for sound reproduction, what may sound really good to me and you, may be bad to someone wanting cold bright analitical detail that would bring us fatigue!
Hi Tonykay, input JBL-Everest DD 67000 speakers on your search, you will enjoy what these new JbL speakers look like, as a matter of fact, the 1400 Array is the only pair of speakers in the model line up that look like that, all the other models have the horns in the cabinet, cheers.
+1 with what Kiddman has said about horn speakers in general, my most enjoyable listening exsperiences have come from Horn speakers through out the years of past, to this day, I believe the folded surround woofer's has the most taunt accurate bass I ever listened to, even over these over thought out designs of today, even Cerwin Vega got this one right years ago along with JBL, who still makes a folded woofer design for home audio these days?, last time I used one of these, it was PA speakers that was made for the keyboards on stage, best mid range ever, LOL, most of the mid range came out of the 15" woofer along with the bass, vocals were incredible real sounding,mated with world class High end audio componets and cables, spooky!
so it's Everest or nothing!, makes sence to do this, considering the cables I have!, thanks dave_72, you are a joy to talk to.
Hi Nonoise, not ever knowing about the JBL 4429 monitors, I thought that they were a blast from the past speaker, My mistake, I am glad you said that the 4429 is a current offering, now Dave_72 says something about the 4365's, man, this is very interesting!, I am learning about some new models here, the both of you got my intrigue going good!, tell me more!, what does the 4365's look like?, post a link?, cheers.
Thankyou Nonoise for the link, I am shocked to see that JBL is making what all of you call pleated surrounds, in the pro audio world when I was making money as a musician, this is called a folded woofer, I am also supprised to see Kiddman have the same opinion as I do, believing that a folded woofer has the best bass, also, Dave_72, I did not know that your s4700s has the folded woofers, Kiddman, I do not understand why the Everest DD-67000 does not have this folded woofer design, what is your opinion as to why not?, is it something to do with power handling?
wow!, Thankyou Kiddman, I did not know that the 67000 has folded woofers-pleated, as a matter of fact, I could hear less distortion with deep bass the last time I owned a woofer design such as this, that is why I said that I liked the design better, that is really great news that the pleated woofers are making a comeback, better believe that I am getting the folded-pleated woofers in my next JBL speakers, Kiddman, do you think JBL would sell the pleated woofers to go into the 66000 speakers?, you know, replace the one's that are in the 66000 speakers, would it work kiddman? cheers.
I believe JBL does not get the recognition they deserve here in the U.S.A., I mean, here on Audiogon, if you say you have JBL speakers, they believe they are junk audio, they blast me for tring to tell them anything about how much better the JBL's are than what they have when they ask what speakers are great because they are in the market to buy new speakers, my question is how much better is the Everest 67000 speakers compaired to the K2 9900's?
The used market for the 66000 here on audiogon looks appealing, the thing is, I do not like the battery scheme for the cross-overs, it would seem if the battery's were half charged this may effect the over all sound?,Dkarmeli, how does the 66000 compaire to the M9500 you are talking about?, Kiddmann, Is it worth it to get a pair of the 66000 speakers on the used market over the K2's and other JBL's that are not the 67000 speakers?, The 66000 used market speakers are more in my budget than the 67000 speakers, do these speakers ever sound bright?, considering that they have 40 khz top range.
please post a link to the JBL M9500 speakers, another model I never heard of, gentleman, I am really enjoying this thread!, I am learning so much here from all of you, thankyou.
DKarmeli, wow!, what a fricken kick ass link!, heritage on the Everest JBL speakers too, I am in your debt, thankyou!, accordinally to Kiddman, the 67000 Everest is a substantial departure increase in performance over the Everest 66000 speakers David, Kiddman knows alot about these two speakers, he owns both or had the 66000, I do know he owns and uses the 67000 speakers now, I have talked to him in the past, he can tell you the attributes of everything 67000, I hope he chimes in to you about these fine JBL speakers, cheers.
Hi DKarmeli, when I get ready, I am pairing one of the Everest models with a modded Krell 700 cx, this would be fun to hear, major slam!, I already have some vintage JBL L-7 speakers that I modded, the krell and these are excellent combo, so going from these to likly the 66000 speakers should be an exsperience to behold!, cheers.
at times on this thread, most do not want to accept the JBL is one of the BEST speakers in the world!, they want to give them a bad rap when they certainly do not desearve so!
This thread is priceless for the exsposure JBL should have, I have been very amused at the fans and users out there that has came to this thread, I encourage many more to make your post, I have learned more about JBL speakers from this thread then any other since 2012, Bravo!
Dave_72, what is on the Horizon for JBL that you may know about?, can you share some insight as to what that may be?