Borresen X1 & X2

"Strange imaging?"  Some speakers, even different models by the same manufacturer, have higher soundstages than others.  Just pick the one you like best and roll with. Personally, I prefer a taller, deeper, and wider soundstage.  Happy listening  

Yes, it was unusual. I actually looked up and behind me looking for surround sound speakers.

Maybe it's the room. I heard them at AXPONA this year but couldn't get a center seat, so I couldn't judge the image, but they sounded great anyway which is why I went to hear the again.

I have heard both and didnot experience that ,that being said for the $2k difference

the x2 is the better buy better deeper Bass and a bit more complete.

the x1 most likely was not. Runin good at the time.

@OP. I was listening to the X1s last weekend. There is nothing strange about the height of their imaging. It's exactly what you'd expect from a two way standmount.

I recently had a similar experience on my DIY speakers where at first I thought the imaging was incredible but it didn’t take me long to realize something wasn’t right. the left image was so far beyond the speakers position something was up. Turns out I had wired that speaker out of phase internally. Prior to this, I had switched the phase externally, accidentally on various speakers before and never had encountered this, so it was quite surprising. Just a thought.

I have heard both and didnot experience that ,that being said for the $2k difference

the x2 is the better buy better deeper Bass and a bit more complete.

the x1 most likely was not. Runin good at the time.

I agree, I liked the X2 better, but the X1 is doable, especially because I have a pair of subs. 

Honestly when I listen to c1, and x1  I am just totally immersing myself to music the more I analyze, the more It mess up my listening. Thats what this Borensen speakers does to me. They are just very good.And Borensen staff knows how to set their speakers.

Hi OP:

I’ve had weird surround-sound like effects from speakers, it was related to brand new film capacitors I was trying out. Took a couple of days to break in and then it was done. I’ve never heard anything like it but it was related to Mundorf MKP caps.

Perhaps the speakers you were listening to needed more break-in or perhaps it was a faulty crossover altogether.

Best,

Erik

Erik, 

Maybe. Maybe it was the demo music? Tunes that I picked out had less of that effect. 
In any case I'm probably going with the X2 and Axxess Forté 1 package they offer, if I can get my Magnepan 3.7i sold. 

OP:

Could be, could also be they had tweaked the player via DSP and ended up with some weird EQ curve. Whenever a store won’t let me play a CD directly I always suspect this, or it could be odd room reflections / interactions.

Research on Head Related Transfer Functions (HRTFs) has shown how the right/wrong EQ can trick your ears into surround like effects as well. It’s the basis for many virtual surround features.

Best,

Erik

Oh, and let us not forget the possibility the speakers were wired out of phase at the amp or internally.  That's another curious coincidence I've run into at dealers. 

Yes...Sounds like an out of phase wiring issue. I have the X-3's and they are spot on imaging....definitely go for the X-2's if you can.....

Could be, could also be they had tweaked the player via DSP and ended up with some weird EQ curve. Whenever a store won’t let me play a CD directly I always suspect this, or it could be odd room reflections / interactions.

Uh, no. They were using the Axxiss Forte 1 amp and you can't do DSP on it. 

It's very possible he had +and - swapped. Would be the first time I heard that at a dealer.

Don't forget that with bi-wiring it's super easy to accidentally swap 1 of the 4 wires.

These are single wire only.

Make sure the + on the speaker is going to the + on the Amp  :)