Are Martin Logan’s what they used to be?

@audiosaurusrex  Yep.  The Vandersteens have a truth about them that is difficult for most other brands to match.  You just enjoy the music and forget about the gear.

I have the older Monoliths with the "newer vapour deposited clear coating" esl panel which is what the Neolith use. And nothing ML makes save for the Neolith comes close. The linear power supplies and xovers are far superior quality to the newer stuff. quality poly caps, air core chokes ect ect. so is the "exterior" build quality. The ESL panels on the old ones were held by a frame solid, not flapping around in the breeze (say goodby to solid imaging) useless to spike these new ones they still flap, they need a support bar ala Quad https://www.stereophile.com/images/717quad.bac.jpg

Cheers George

They're not what they used to be if you mean do they have a lot of problems.  They have a 5 year warranty if purchased new, so the company stands behind them.

They also sound very good.  If you liked the sound of your older MLs, you'll like the newer ones.

They’re still bad with rock music and lack the coherence of better traditional cone and dome speakers.

I have the ESL11A’s and love them for me the staging is awesome rock,jazz,classical,folk,bluegrass all sound great. I’m only using a Linn Malik DSM to drive them