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I'm 48 and have been listening to jazz since I was 7 or 8. I have read about and listened to Coleman Hawkins for years but I never heard him , really heard his tone, until saturday night. Ben Webster took his first solo on track 2 of 'Coleman Hawkins encounters Ben Webster' and though there are several good recordings of him this was a great moment. His bluesy tone was beautiful and I remember thinking " how is hawk going to top this?" At that moment Bean began to play and I just could not believe it. His tone was monumental. While he couldn't match Websters sweet blues his tone stuck me for what it was - one of the highest expresions of his instument. ( Webster came back and rather than try to outdo him he played his next solo so understatedly that for several bars he played using only the vebrato of his breath blowing over the reed with the horn barely making a sound - sublime) Now I finaly understood why all Hawks contemporaries loved him so and how he won all those late night cutting contests back in the 30's and 40's against the best competition available. It also hit me then why I (we) spend so much time on this crazy hobby. When you find a GREAT recording and play it on a quality system you understand what is was like to be in their presence. I UNDERSTOOD Hawkins in a way few others will who did not see him in his prime. I have found a few other very high quality recordings and my search for more will continue. I would be interested in hearing from others about their favorite classic jazz recordings. ( It beats arguing about cables.) - Jim
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There are musicians that shock you with their technical abilities. Coltrane falls into a rare category of being able to do that and be very musical and expressive at the same time.

Another one of my favorites, sort of like Luis Armstrong of saxophone, is Dexter Gordon. It is amazing how underrated he is. Rarely mentioned anywhere. His tone is easy to recognize. Won't knock your socks off with the technical virtuosity like Coltrane or Michael Brecker could, but his sound is something special. I highly recommend his "One Flight Up", "GO" and "Ballads". Check him out. He is for sure one of the best.

Also, among the currently living sax players, Jan Garbarek is really good. That is, of course, if you're into ECM category of jazz, which for the most part does not fall into classic jazz at all.
Thank you audiophile 1 for mentioning Dexter Gordon. I agree 100%. I have all of the above. One terribly underated album of his is " Doin allright" Check out the track " I was doin allright" The way he can really swing old school but really dig into some more modern stuff in the same tune is really amazing. " A swingin affair " is also very good. I'm curious if you or others think that the RVG remasters seem a little tinny in spots ? Anyway thanks for mentioning one of my alltime favorites. ( two actually as pops is,of course #1) - Jim
I’m resurrecting this thread because I just got the Hawkins/Webster CD. I can’t really ad anything to the very nice post by Aldavis, so I’ll just say that listening to this entire ensemble, including Oscar Peterson, is absolutely thrilling.
Funny you should mention Hawkins and Webster and tone. For me, these two - more than anyone else - epitomize the beauty of tone. Any genre, any instrument, I'd place Hawkins and Webster #1 and #2. Obviously, that's merely a personal preference, but it does - I think - speak to the essence of this thread.

It occurred to me recently, that my Hawkins and Webster LPs may not contain THE MOST IMPRESSIVE music that I own, but they do contain the music that best justifies my excessive investment in a stereo system.

Marty