Creek Destiny 1 & Destiny2 Any difference??


Is there anyone out there, that either owned the Creek Destiny 1 integrated, or its replacement the Destiny 2. Is there much difference in the quality of sound??

Also, I have NOT seen either model on Audiogon for sale for at least 6 months,if not longer. Has Creek discontinued both. Their retail price seemed a bit high at $2795.00, especially if they are/were made in China. Thanx
sunnyjim
I own and still do the Destiny 1. It is a great amp solid build and very good sound. In my audio travels this is about what it takes to get what I consider acceptable sound. You can pair this with almost any decent speakers and a decent DAC and get some very excellent sound. Ill still take my separates any day but if I had any friend who wanted a good sounding stereo I would say the Destiny is an awesome foundation. I've seen these as low as 1000 here on audiogon and that is a heck of a buy. Why don't you email creek and ask the difference. I had a question about mine and mike creek himself promptly answered my email.
Early Destiny amps were made in Great Britain. Later ones are made in China if that makes a difference.
I think Creek products are very underrated. I haven't heard one that was made in China, so I really can't comment on it. But if you find one made in GB, I would definitely recommend it. I would also consider a 5350. I'm sorry I sold mine.
Thanks to all who responded so far; I needed info about the newer Creek amps because I am downsizing again to save shipping cost from Hawaii to somewhere in California next year. I previously owned a 5350SE Classic which I enjoyed for 4 years until upsizing the system to separates in 2008 .Nice sounding amp but I often clipped the amp because 75RMS was not enough power to do justice to Yes, Jeff Beck or Beethoven.

I think I had the later model made in China because it was kind of junky, like the volume knob and push buttons The only other integrated that is better is either the new Sim Audio or Krell 300i which sounds bright to me. I am sure there is much better integrated amps out there but the cost may be 3 times that of the original Destiny 1
I also owned the 5350 and the destiny is better but it's only weakness is it doesn't play extremely lound with inefficient speakers like dynaudio or revel. I've had mine shut down a time or two when really cranking some music for a while and that was in a bedroom. If you are thinking of filling a large room at a high level this might not do it. Other than that it sounds great.I've played my destiny with revel M20 dynaudio contour 2.5 and Von schweikert vr 1 and they all sound good.

I also have a simaudio i5.3 that has 80 watts compared to the destiny at 100. The sim sounds great too but is a little more finicky with the speakers it works with. It's ok with the revel great with the dynaudio and not so great with the Von schweikert. It seems to have more power than the destiny and plays with a little more authority but the destiny is great too and very musical and easy to listen to. The sim audio is a brighter more revealing sound with more refinement and space the destiny is a little warm and fuzzy compared. You would prob have a favorite side by side but either on their own should satisfy most anyone as long as you aren't used to 20k separates.