Genuine Telefunken?


The last few years I have really enjoyed the exceptional sound of my tube audio equipment. After reading as much as possible on the net about " NOS " tubes, have narrowed it down to Telefunken 12AX7 and 12AU7 for my Jadis DPL preamp, but now I am really confused and can't believe all the fake ones being passed on for the authentic tubes. I have three questions! 1.) What exactly should I look for on genuine Telefunkens of these #'s, should they all have gold pins? 2.)Is it possible to stumble upon a genuine NOS Telefunken 12AX7? and 3.) Is it just a matter of preference of smooth plate verses ribbed plate? Or is one better than the other? I am new to experimenting with tubes and would love any opinions or comments. Maybe I should just consider a used tube being they have such a long long life. Thanks, Deb
noguerol
Oh no, not a reference to the dreaded Gabriel Gold thread!!!

:-)

Hmmm... I wonder if the zealots came out of the closet again with the Revelation mkII coming out recently.

FWIW, I have a pair of brand Tele 12AU7 ribbed plates that I listened to for about an hour on my Cary 303/300. They were phenomenal. Accurate and detailed like SS, but with that a touch of the richness that makes tubes so seductive. Sadly, I've gotten away from tubes and have about 4 sets of various brands now sitting in their boxes. Maybe one day I'll get back to them, or sell them with the 303/300.

Where does one go to even find Telefunken tubes these days?
Jafox,hmm?..

Well,I don't have stock power cords,and my Exact Power EP-15a/Ultrapure "regeneration -- fully balanced" conditioners blew away a huge variety of stuff.

Went through evrything except the PW tubes,AND you are selling the IC-70 short,IMO -:)...BUT...

if you can move your 2.2's vta "that" much,and don't hear much change,I may be having my doubts -:)

I owned,loved,and "as of this moment" sadly miss my five years with the 2.2(an amazing arm,by any standard),but in my set-up,and that of a close friend,such vta changes stand out BIG TIME!!

Hmm?Maybe the Hyper,or your figamajig super tubes,or "something else" is clouding the "should be" instantly recognizeable differences you "should" get,with vta changes,on an arm as good as the 2.2!... -:) -:)

Time to check the cartridge?Or maybe the CCa's should get a try-out(they are quite good,btw).

BTW,since I don't know you too well,there was a healthy dose of humor in my post......BUT,hmm?

Best.
Sirspeedy....I think you're in need of a vacation to Minnesota! I need help with my VTA. <8)~
C,mon Jafox....I think you just might be trying to "out-fox" me!!??

Trust me..."That arm is incredibly good"!!Your system looks to be "incredibly good".Your experience seems to be the same,so don't assume you cannot get a bit more from "something" in the system,not allowing you to hear minor(which should be "instantly" heard)changes in the analog chain(vta)....I think if you look at other hobbyists comments,on the subject,it will reveal the vta impact,should be easily heard.

I mean this with the "utmost" respect,and am speaking as though you are a friend.Yet,I probably should just shut up.Please don't get peeved because there is a nice surprise in store for you,if you like to attempt to push the envelope.

We ALL have assumptions about some aspect of sonic performance, that winds up being changed,and surprising us from time to time!You have a high resolution set-up.Certainly high res enough to change your opinion of this vta "thing".You'll love the results,and can send me a nice bottle of wine,if you pursue this!! -:)I'd be happy with a nice Chardonnay,if you only get a small improvement,but I think I'll wind up with a BIG RED BARLOLO,because if you don't already think I am nuts,your in for a treat(it may take some work)!BTW,just kidding about the wine...just happy to see you get what you deserve from such a great system!

I think,with all of the associations you have,in the hobby,this VTA issue can open additional doorways to an already fabulous system!!You may want to hit me now,but might thank me at some future point.

A system as good as yours should,"absolutely",be capable of "easily" showing changes in VTA!Assuming the fluid in the bearing cap is not set too high(minimum gains openness,maximum damps down sound).I had my fluid(using my old Transfig Temper-V)at 1/3 way up the bearing "square.I'll assume everything else is doing what it should,but maybe some tubes need replacing?Ya never know.

Sorry if I'm pissing you off,but you seem like a great guy,and this is the place to have some fun...

Besides Minn. is far enough for you to not want to attempt to beat me up,since I am on the East Coast. -:)

I have a sneaky suspicion that if you actually address this subject(aren't you sorry you mentioned the vta "thing"?)you will be in for a revelation!!

Best Regards