Lightspeed Attenuator - Best Preamp Ever?


The question is a bit rhetorical. No preamp is the best ever, and much depends on system context. I am starting this thread beacuase there is a lot of info on this preamp in a Music First Audio Passive...thread, an Slagle AVC Modules...thread and wanted to be sure that information on this amazing product did not get lost in those threads.

I suspect that many folks may give this preamp a try at $450, direct from Australia, so I thought it would be good for current owners and future owners to have a place to describe their experience with this preamp.

It is a passive preamp that uses light LEDs, rather than mechanical contacts, to alter resistance and thereby attenuation of the source signal. It has been extremely hot in the DIY community, since the maker of this preamp provided gernerously provided information on how to make one. The trick is that while there are few parts, getting it done right, the matching of the parts is time consuming and tricky, and to boot, most of use would solder our fingers together if we tried. At $450, don't bother. It is cased in a small chassis that is fully shielded alloy, it gets it's RF sink earth via the interconnects. Vibration doesn't come into it as there is nothing to get vibrated as it's passive, even the active led's are immune as they are gas element, no filaments. The feet I attach are soft silicon/sorbethane compound anyway just in case.

This is not audio jewelry with bling, but solidly made and there is little room (if any) for audionervosa or tweaking.

So is this the best preamp ever? It might be if you have a single source (though you could use a switch box), your source is 2v or higher, your IC from pre-amp to amp is less than 2m to keep capaitance low, your amp is 5kohm input or higher (most any tube amp), and your amp is relatively sensitive (1v input sensitivity or lower v would be just right). In other words, within a passive friendly system (you do have to give this some thought), this is the finest passive preamp I have ever heard, and I have has many ranging form resistor-based to TVCs and AVCs.

In my system, with my equipment, I think it is the best I have heard passive or active, but I lean towards prefering preamp neutrality and transparency, without loosing musicality, dynamics, or the handling of low bass and highs.

If you own one, what are your impressions versus anything you have heard?

Is it the best ever? I suspect for some it may be, and to say that for a $450 product makes it stupidgood.
pubul57
I much prefer direct coupling, I can hear coupling caps. But I do not think this circuit can be direct coupled as I think there is a high input offset from the chip amp, I could tell better if they gave a the internal circuit diagram to it, but they don't.
Cheers George
George, the "passive" "active" debate seems to me more problematic the the tube versus SS debate, for in the latter, there remains room for both to coexist. The passive argument, if right, threatens manufacturers of active preamps, reviewers and magazines supported by advertising from makers of active preamps, and also threatens owners of active preamps that have invested in them and might feel compelled to justify the expense of the gear and protect it from dimishment of the value of their asset. Not to say that there are not systems that need an active to perform well, and I think that is covered here pretty well.

In a review of the Wytech Opal in Positive Feedback, the reviwer said:
Something very interesting goes on when a preamp handles a low-level signal (or not so low in the case of CD). In theory, a preamp should be unnecessary when the source is capable of 2 volts (standard maximum output for a CD player), but experience has shown me that doing without an active preamp does not lead to improved sound. One possible explanation for this is that most CD players have relatively weak output stages. In most cases, they consist of a few op amps and/or some discrete transistors, driven by a power supply that can barely be deemed adequate by high-end audio standards. For the purpose of driving an amp, most are inadequate, and the result is often a bit harsh and/or harmonically "bleached." There is resolution but not refinement, suggesting a system under stress at musical peaks. Also, the sound often lacks dynamics. Many internet contributors claim that this is the sound that was actually recorded, and that if you don't like an aggressive, flat soundstage and lifeless dynamics, you simply can't handle the truth. Some even conclude that an active preamp, which can provide effortless dynamics, a deep, wide soundstage, and palpable, 3-D imaging, is in fact generating artifacts or "enhancements" that are not on the recording. I don't believe that these effects are artifacts, but information that is lost when those recordings are played on lesser systems. Making classical recordings in a real space has led me to believe that these spacial characteristics are real, and can be either captured or added in the mix.

Another argument for eliminating an active line stage is it does not in fact amplify anything, but acts "merely" as an attenuator 90 percent of the time. While it is true that the input is often of a higher voltage than the output, an active preamp also gives the signal a deep reservoir of current drive and voltage stability from its own power supply. Think for a moment about how a preamp works. First, the signal from the source arrives and is attenuated, then the signal is amplified again—replicated, if you will—by a circuit that has a larger and more stable power reserve than the original source. Since the gain of most preamps is fixed, the active part of the line stage is always amplifying the signal, not attenuating it. Since it is only the amount of signal to be amplified from the volume attenuator that changes, the concept that an active line stage is only attenuating the signal is false. In fact, the preamp first reduces the incoming signal, then beefs it back up with (ideally) the same amount of information, but greater drive and control."

What do you think of that? I think my EMM Labs must have a pretty good power supply....

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Maybe you have even better amp/speaker synergy. That's where the real magic in sound reproduction lies.
You are right Paul, in some instances.
But in our case with the parameters I have outlined for the Lightspeed Attenuator, if you have a source that has low output impedance, less than 100ohm and 2v or more output voltage, and the power amp at more than 50kohms input impedance, there is absolutely no need for preamplification, (it's Ohms Law). No amount of extra current in the form of extra active current stages will have the desired effect of giving more drive and control, if fact the opposite could be had and heard, as well as a loss of transparency.
Cheers George
I think this is beyond the reach of logic, it is simply a matter of trying it within the system context as you proscribe and listening for yourself. With all the preamps I have tried (most $5,000+ tube preamps)I've concluded that most negative comment about passives (and resistor versus TVC/AVC for that matter) must come from those with a financial interest (as makers or owners of active preamps), or simply not evaluated in the right system context, or one simply likes euphonic colorations - and they have every right to prefer that. In the wrong system context, it would be like proclaiming the weakness of low watt SETs by evaluating them with a pair of Thiel or B&W speakers, a meaningless assessment of what SETs can do.