External HD VS Flash Drive Sound Quality Question


Hi have an Oppo BDP-95. I am up to around 25 Flash drives which is getting ridiculous.

2 questions (hoping for folks who know the definitive answers; I have my own guesses, bu that's all they are.)

1. HD Tracks has written that the Flash drives sound better than any spinning disc or drive due to lack of jitter from lack of a spinning disc. Is that accurate?

2. I have noticed a new generation of external hd's that get all there power through the USB port, & do not require an out board power supply.

A. Would there be any detectable sonic difference either way? If so, which is better: the cheap wall wort power supplies or getting power solely through the USB line?

B. The Western Digital USB drives with no power supply have a proprietary cable that looks quite cheap. Would the lack of an audiophile USB cable be sonically problematic?

I'm basically trying to decide whether to ditch the lash drives or a USB hard drive; & if so whether to go with a powered or unpowered drive. A couple +'s re the new WD's: they are teeny & they run cooler than the Seagates I've used.
moomoo
Hi Moomoo, How is your hard drive into the Oppo 95 experiment going? Are you happy with the sound?
I don't have many further opinions yet. I also spend time paying discs, & work. I continue to lean towards the USB wired/powered hd seems to cause a slight drop in sound quality & adds a ton of convenience but I don't feel that I have formed a definitive (for me at least!) opinion yet.

Commons sense would seem to say that an SSD with a male USB plug built in shouldn't have any disadvantages to a flash.
That's an interesting idea.

I'd appreciate an explanation I can understand as to why Power cords & digital cables make a dramatic difference with transports, but not with an hd.

I also know there is a big market for audiophile US cables. It could be a scam, but I can sat with 100% certainty that
digital cables make a HUGE difference from transport to D/A.

I do apologize that I haven;t had much time for my experiment. Other then yet another redundant backup, it almost feels like it was a waste of money.

The only other a/b I've had time for was Joni's Court & Spark in 192/24. I didn't hear as much difference as with the Jarrett, but there seemed to be a better sense of ease with the Flash. I'll be the first to admit I am developing a bias & what I hard on the Joni COULD be psychological.

I also agree with a previous poster that factory pressed discs seem to out perform both files & iso's sonically.
I'd appreciate an explanation I can understand as to why Power cords & digital cables make a dramatic difference with transports, but not with an hd.
I attempted to explain that, with respect to digital cables, in my post in this thread dated 8-4-13.

Basically, differences in digital cables connecting transports and DACs can directly affect the signal that is received by the DAC in such a way as to affect jitter (timing fluctuations) when the digital signal is converted to analog within the DAC. Jitter at the point of digital to analog conversion has directly audible effects. A lot has been written on that subject.

None of that has any relevance to the connection between between a USB hard drive and your Oppo.

As far as power cords are concerned, if I recall correctly you are using a bus powered drive that does not have an AC power cord or power supply. So the drive receives 5 volt DC power from the Oppo, while a transport receives 120 volt AC power. A transport is a physically large component containing extensive amounts of circuitry and parts that generate electrical noise, which can be fed back into its power cord and pollute the AC that is received by other components. Again, none of that has any relevance to the situation of a bus powered USB hard drive.

Now, I am not saying that it is impossible for the cable connecting your hard drive to the Oppo to have any audible effects. But if it were to, it would be in ways that are subtle, indirect, unpredictable, and much less audibly significant than in the transport to DAC situation. What I am basically saying is that the fact that you have found cables to make major differences in the transport situation should not create an EXPECTATION that differences will occur in the hard drive situation.

Regards,
-- Al
Kriskdf, I apologize if I missed this in your post. You're outputting I2S/HDMI out of your Oppo to your DAC? What is your DAC and does it have an I2s/HDMI input?

If you're using any USB cables what are they?