I don't like the sound of my system. Help please.


Thanks to all in advance for all the help.

ARC SP-14, ARC 150.2, Naim CD 3.5, also a Conrad Johnson PV-10, Vandersteen 2c Sig Mk II, REL Strata III

The sound is thin and voices sound strained. No depth or warmth.

I like to spend about $1200 give or take on any new components.

Suggestions?
mendota9811
I would not be quick to pair ARC and Naim; I can understand why you would have issues. The nature of these two house sounds would not be complementary, imo.

Further, if you are using stock cabling I would assert the weakenesses of each would contribute to quite a tough sound. Using a Vandy 2CE Sig one would not typically expect a thin and strained result, but that certainly could happen with those components and lesser wiring.

My assessment is that if you wish to move quite a distance away from the current sound you will likely need to change both the ARC and the Naim. Individually in properly established systems they can perform fine, but it sounds like you do not care for the result at all, so a sea change is in order. I do not believe that futzing with lesser fixes, i.e. burn in, even cable changes will ameliorate the larger issue. Treatment of the space is also not the issue; you cannot alter a fundamentally poor combination to your ears holistically by room treatment - the character of the system will be only partially ameliorated.

Now, if you do room treatment, cable change, adjust the sub, etc. you may - I say, may - get a nice enough change. However, I feel this is lowered expectations for you. You should use this frustration to seek a sea change in sound, not putz around with getting it "good enough." Seek a FAR higher, more pleasing result, one which will leave you shaking your head at how wonderful it is. Such changes can happen and do all the time. But it will take a changeout of components. If you want a smoother, less fatiguing result, keep the CJ and Vandies and rebuild.

You're doing well to have a forgiving speaker like the Vandy... or else it would be worse! :)
BEFORE anyone can recommend anything, they would have to know this: Are you into GEAR or MUSIC?

If into GEAR; Then change something. Anything. It does not matter, because you will eventually change it all many times over. I would start with the little jumper thingys. That one, is one of my favorites. :)

If into MUSIC: Sell all that stuff and use the money to upgrade to some well made so-called mid-fi stuff. I recommend POLK, Marantz, Blue Jeans and Harman Kardon. I can assure you, it will not sound 'thin'. Then use the moeny you have saved to buy some music and a good comfortable listening chair. There is so much music out there, you cannot hear it all in a lifetime. So stop wasting time.
Cheers
I would start auditioning amps.A good ss amp that will double it's power into 4ohms will wake up your system.If you go with a used unit,read many reviews first.You can always resell and move on.If you buy new,just make sure you can return it in 30 days.I'm sure you'll get many brands recommended to you in this thread to give you a starting point for research.I can't really recommend my monoblocks[Hibachi] since their creator passed away and if you ever needed service you'd be up that creek.But they are powerful,detailed,and smooth.Best of luck to you,and that's a very nice system!
agreed with the focus on speaker and IC cabling AND power cords.

the key points:

(1) review and assess ALL three cable types together. The wrong cables in your system can be fatal.

(2) one size does NOT fit all. Certain cables (speaker/ICs/power) -- individually and collectively-- work better with certain gear; and conversely do NOT work well with others. Trial and error experimentation -- after getting mfg and dealer recommendations as a first step -- is regrettabbly the path to follow. There is no magic bullet solution for this ...this is a journey and not a destination exercise.

A review of these is a first step before you start throwing more money at new gear. The improvements can be huge with the right cables. Good luck.