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Coincident Total Eclipse vs. Von Schweikert VR 4

I'm considering replacing my Dynaudio monitors with a floorstanding model to get a bigger voice and stronger bass. I have narrowed the list to these two speakers, Coincident Total Eclipse and Von Schweikert VR 4, based upon professional and amateur reviews. Unfortunately, neither speaker is represented anywhere near me so demonstrations are problematic. Has anyone heard these two speakers side by side?

Currently, I have an Air Tight tube preamp and amp, but soon to have a new tube amp with a high output. I primarily listen to CDs with the Muse CDP.

Any help would be appreciated.
lrm1jaf
bigkidz
3,334 posts
 
I heard the VR-4SEs with a Vac Std 105 amp and it was not enough juice to handle the bass. From there up the sound was very nice but no bass.

Happy Listening.
bigshutterbug
379 posts
 
I have owned both the VR4HSE and the Total Eclipse, and can tell you that the VR4HSE sounds fantastic with my new VAC Phi 30/30, and I get plenty of strong, deep and tight bass with this amazing 32 W.P.C. amp. I have a feeling that something was not right with the setup that the above post mentioned. The Total Eclipse does have more bass energy than the VR4HSE for sure, but the VR4HSE is much more precise and controlled in the bass area. Both speakers have great tweeters, but to my ears the VR4HSE's tweeter was more natural sounding. In the critical midrange area, there was no contest... the VR4HSE was far less colored and more coherent. Soundstage with the Totals was much taller and a little more pinpoint, but the VR4 disappeared much better and had more "air" and ambience. The Totals require a much larger room to "breathe" properly in....smaller rooms are out of the question with them with my experience. Hope this helps...
jbello
115 posts
 
If these two factory would merge, they could have a speaker called the, Total Schweikert
taat
13 posts
 
Funny Jbello.
I owned both the Eclipse and the VR4genIIISE, and imho, the VR4 are much more precise, bass was tighter and deeper, and the mids, oooh the mids, to die for.
Good luck,
Tim
byfo
120 posts
 
I just received the VR4genIII HSE and have had the Total Eclipse for a couple of months. At this point (open to more experimentation on my part) I feel the Eclipse's are more revealing in the mids and highs. Decays and subtleties are more apparent. The VR4's have better bass in my room also. I'm using a Wyetech Opal pre and ASL AQ-1009DT amps. I have a couple of audiophile buddies who will be listening to both within the next week and will let you know their impressions. AUDITION BOTH IF YOU CAN. IMO THEY ARE QUITE DIFFERENT IN PRESENTATION. Side firing woofers may or may not work in your room. I don't like the idea of having woofers aimed at my equipment rack (which I can not move)which in my room gives me better overall response.

If a speaker has too much detail for your liking, there are ways of subduing, but if a speaker doesn't have enough, you are out of luck.
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