Original Packaging, you gotta have it.


The Fedex truck just left my house, I had a cashiers check ready for payment of a Jadis Defy7. I had looked forward to giving it a listen this weekend. The seller brought it to a MBE, who boxed it in a rather large thin walled box. It was filled only with styrofoam peanuts and what looked like strips of styrofoam. The amp was shipped Fedex Standard Overnight from NJ to CA, at a cost of $250. The corner of the amp was peeking out of the box, with only tape which it looks like Fedex tape there to keep the amp in. The box also had a hole big enough to place my hand in to feel the tubes. I obviously refused the COD shippment and hope it makes it back to the seller in one piece and hasnt been broken beyond repair.

I word to the wise, if you dont have the original boxes, then use Double Walled cardboard on the outside, another box inside that and make sure the unit does not shift inside the box. It sadly looks like this amp was not packed well.
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Another thing to remember; like physics. Place all weight (converted to kinetic energy) on the upper left corner of a box containing a 60lb speaker and dropped from the top of an 8 ft UPS van. Result: speaker mash. (Last year I had to order 4(!) sets of speakers to get one workable pair that were not reduced to gravel-all of these in original factory packing)

Suggestion: remember to use hard foam corner protectors inside the inner box. Peanuts ain't going to do it on a heavy object with square corners.
I suggest using UPS and letting them pack it. They offer a service where they put that expanding foam stuff around the item inside a heavy box. Yes, it will cost you about $15 to $20 depending on the size of the item but I've had very good luck with this. AND, they can't deny a damage claim for improper packing because they packed it. Those Mail Box stores offer the same service but their prices are much, much higher. I think it is cheap insurance.
Been there-- Been had by all of the above. First af all; because of the Jadis's extremely lopsided weight distribution,even the factory box ain't no guaranty; HOME MADE boxes--- the odds go down nill! Mr. "driver" nails it. To them they're just boxes that have to be moved. Some times the buyer whom is paying for shipping wants to keep the charges down.-- Big mistake!!I received 200 lbs ea.-- speakers, in the original wood crates. A fork lift tip nicked the pressed wood. The weight of the contents pushed the dent back out. --making the protusion near invisable-- or at least to me. I had signed; BAX Global said thanks for signing; tough luck!! Reminds me of the valet who damages your car;and hopes you don't notice. It is a contact sport;in more ways than one. OEM packing don't guaranty nothing;--less than that?--you're practically paying the shipper to damage your goods. (Get a cheap shipping rate).
A senior person at UPS told me a box loses 50% of its effectivness every time it is shipped. That is why is easy for them to claim improper packaging if the boxes aren't brand new.
I think that U.P.S. not paying for claims is a scam. They just assume, and they are right, that most people will just drop it saving them millions in claims.

There is such a thing as an implied warrenty. It says that if you hire someone to deliver a package it is IMPLIED that they will get it there without damaging it. I think that if all the rejected claims went to court they would loose ninety percent of them even with out insurance.

I think them not covering a claim with insurance is just a flat out rip off.

The U.P.S. office by me now cuts your box open and inspects the packaging. With all thats going on in the world right now Im not convinced they are checking your packing but I think they should do this everywhere. It cuts down on their lame excuses for not covering claims.

At least some signs or some type of effort on their part to educate customers in this area would at least help me beleive that their insurance isnt a scam.

How much money a year do you think they make off the insurance amone?