Shopping for a new netbook or laptop...


Hoping to get some advice. I'm not very computer savvy. I'm looking for a netbook simply to listen to internet radio and browse the web. I'll hook it up to my 2 channel system via USB cable and external DAC. Borrowed my wife's work laptop today to listen to Pandora. Are there any critical hardware components or performance specs I should be looking for? Will the quality of the computer's sound card have any effect on things? Don't really see myself downloading music files etc, so don't think I need a huge hard drive (but maybe I should). Thanks in advance for your time and input. If something recent on this topic has already been posted, please let me know. I missed it, if so. Thanks again.
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Apple clearly makes beautiful hardware, but for those of us who have jobs which are not in graphic design, post production, or advertising, Windows still dominates the market.

Are any Apple users above running Windows? I would consider an Apple for Windows, particularly after recently having my third Sony VAIO break.

In the meantime, I have had great success with Lenovo S10 netbooks.

Although slow with a small chip, they are dirt cheap, very well made, with a clear screen, decent keyboard and never miss a beat.
I've spent a lot of time with HP's (3 in the office/house). They have been amazingly reliable. Personally, I like Media Player over the overly restrictive itunes. I get tons of flexibility to do things that Apple would have ethical issues with...
As I understand it, if you're a tweaker and into optimizing a playback program like Foobar with optimizing plugins, changing settings etc... then a Windows operating system is the better choice.

These people are very very passionate about their sound. This may be unfair but it reminds me of the solid state vs tubes argument. The windows people being spec "centric".

It's also about 30-40% cheaper.

Although then you have to deal with endless new operating system ugrades (per year or two), anti-virus sccans, slow start up etc.

Every inexpensive windows system I've had has crashed, or severely slowed down over time. Probably something to do with the way the operating systems function, software compatiability etc.

If you're just into plug and play. A user (computer for dummies) friedly interface. A computer for simple life style stuff (pictures, music, movies).

Apple is the way to go. You don't need anything fancy, since you're not really needing a lot of processing power to play music and watching a photo slideshow when the in-laws are over.

Although, I'd imagine you'd want at least a 120-160 gb internal hard drive. The smaller the quieter though, and if you're going to buy an external hard drive anyways then never mind.

Just something quiet.

If I were you, I'd look on Craigslist and look for a Mac Mini, especially if you have a TV near your system. Some even come with small LCD monitors. LIkely $300-500.

They leave virtually no footprint. It's like the size of a small brick. You can get external hard drives in the same shape. Quite aesthetically pleasing.

I would think you would want the mini-toslink optical out. In which case you want one of the later intel Mac Minis (doesn't have to be core2duo...but a intel core processor.. supposedly the older ones are better). Use a Vandenhul Optocoupler II (mini-toslink to toslink cable.. thus no adapters $100) glass cable.

IF you're sure you'll never use the optical output and only USB out, than the PowerPC chip G5s are fine, and super cheap ... like $200-300.

If you're using an external DAC, the soundcard shouldn't matter at all. But I'd imagine that apple's hardware (connectors etc) are of higher quality than a $300 notebook.

And btw, should you have a problem or question with you Mac OSX, google is your best friend. Less but more diehard-geek users, easier to find answers to your specific question when searching the vast WWW.

If you do buy new, use your gold or platinium card to double manufacturers warranty (works in Canada).

This is from my experience. I hated computers before, my macbook opened up a whole new world to me, it was so smooth and quick, searching the net was more convenient, thus I did it more, learning (and shopping.. read audio nervosa...) more. More confidence, equals more fun.

Yes, I am biased. Get a Mac Mini (used preferably off Craigslist).

happy hunting.
Every inexpensive windows system I've had has crashed, or severely slowed down over time. Probably something to do with the way the operating systems function, software compatiability etc.
That is a common experience among Windows PC users, but it need not be so. I have five Windows XP computers in my house, 3 desktops (which I built myself), and 2 laptops (which I reformatted and reinstalled the software on immediately after purchase, to get rid of the crapware that they are inevitably delivered with).

These computers range in age from 1 year to 6 years. Every one of them works very fast, very stably, and as well as when it was new. And I have never had to do a re-install of the operating system on any of them.

What do I attribute that to?

-- Researching any software that I may consider installing to make sure it is not a known resource hog.
-- Whenever a new program is installed, choosing "custom install" rather than "express install," so that I can select what options and what parts of the overall software package I want, and not install the others.
-- After any new software installation, using task manager to identify any new background processes it has added, and using msconfig or "administrative tools" to prevent them from starting automatically during boot if automatic startup is not specifically necessary.
-- Defragmenting the hard drives periodically, perhaps once a month.
-- Not using any comprehensive all-in-one "security suites"; pretty much all of them have problems in one area or another.
-- Avoiding Norton/Symantec software.
-- Using NOD32 anti-virus protection (just the av, not the full suite), which has extremely minimal impact on system performance.
-- Using a hardware firewall that protects my entire lan, rather than having the software in each computer perform that function (although Windows XP's marginally effective built-in firewall seems to affect performance very little if at all).
-- Keeping Windows security patches up to date.
-- Using Spyware Blaster.
-- Not visiting sites that are likely to be untrustworthy (file sharing sites, porn-hosting sites, etc.).
-- Using a drive imaging program periodically, so that in the event of hard drive failure, software corruption, or virus infection I can easily recover. In my case, that has only been necessary due to hard drive failure.

Obviously all of this will be impractical for many computer users, but my point is that the performance degradation of Windows computers over time, that is often reported, is both explainable and avoidable.

Regards,
-- Al
Apple is no more reliable than average PC

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1562733/apple-machines-reliable

Asus, Sony, and Toshiba are top.

Most netbook runs Window XP but slowly migrating to Window 7, Window XP is not that great in streaming out digital music via USB, you will need to run ASIO4ALL with XP for better sound.