VTA and HTA overhang


I was adjusting VTA on my tonearm tonight and out of curiosity decided to check how it effected the overhang according to my MINT LP protractor. To my surprise, very small changes to VTA on my 12" arm are quite noticeable when trying to align my stylus to the arc on my alignment protractor.

My question is to all of you who change VTA for each LP. How do you compensate or adjust for the resulting change in Horizontal Tracking Angle (HTA) or overhang each time you change your VTA setting?

Besides the hassle of adjusting VTA for different LPs, this is another reason I don't fuss with VTA once I have found a good setting for the majority of my LPs. I wonder if those who attribute sonic differences to VTA changes are not also hearing slight changes to alignment which surely effects the sonics.
peterayer
Hi Searcher, Actually, Baerwald (Loefgren A) is least average error across the entire record i.e. even amount beginning, middle, end. Loefgren(B) is least total error. That's because nulls are closer to the middle where error is the greatest, but error is a little higher at the beginning. Stevenson puts the inner null at the lead out groove to help with inner groove problems. There's no right/wrong. I've aligned many arms designed for Stevenson with nulls between there and Baerwald. IMO it worked out better.

Why only consider horizontal aspect? Tracking is 3 dimensional. If SRA is off, it effects playback of the entire record. If someone finds occasional height adjustment to sound better than not, how can you question that?
Theo, adjusting for differences in record thickness (weight) is exactly what I do using a Herbie's "Donut" mat. I use a 0.5mm mat to compensate for the thinner 120g-150g LPs. Actually, I'm compensating for the heavy 180g-200g LPs that I started purchasing a few years back; I noticed that SRA was changing slightly with the thicker LPs. So now I set up my cartridge alignment and tonearm height for proper SRA using one of my best 180g LPs (even thickness and flat) and then use the "Donut" mat to raise the thinner LPs up off the platter. It's not an elegant solution like the VTA adjusters on some tonearms, but it works.

The 0.5mm mat was a compromise because it actually works for a small range of LP thicknesses. (Refer to chart below.) I tried using a 0.8mm mat for the thinnest LPs (100g-120g) and used the 0.5mm mat for 130g-150g LPs but found that dealing with two mats wasn't worth the additional benefit for the lightweight LPs. They comprise a minority of my LPs so I can live with it. I'd rather set things up to optimize for the majority of my records and the high quality heavy vinyl.

Thickness/Weight
1.00" / 100g
1.27" / 120g
1.52" / 150g
1.77" / 180g
2.02" / 200g

I found the "Donut" to be sonically neutral using it with a Gyro SE platter. I'm not sure about other platter materials and construction.

Regards,
Tom
Tom
Thanks, I didn't realize the "donut" excisted. And i gatehr from what you are stating that you have found it to have no effect on sonics? I wonder how it would perfom on a suspended table like my LP12. I guess I should research this as an option.
Fleib, I'm not sure where I wrote that SRA does not matter. I don't feel that HTA is necessarily more important than SRA. It's all important and all we can do is optimize all the dimensions the best we can. I also do not think that small adjustment of VTA without resetting HTA is wrong. I was just pointing out its effect on HTA.

As for Stevenson or Baerwald you gotta go with what sounds best to you.

I just looked at the vinyl engine calculator again and it shows Baerwald as having the least max distortion and Lofgren B as having the most max distortion. Lofgren B has the least average distortion though. Baerwald has less max and average distortion than Stevenson so I can understand why it is popular.
Theo, The Herbies Way Exellent II Mat is what I think Tom is referring to. I have one and have used it on a LP12. They are fairly light and work well on the Linn. They do make them in many different heights.

On my current TT I prefer a harder mat though.