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MFSL Super Deep Cleaner or Enzyme?

I've been using RRL, now MFSL cleaners for several yrs. So when I ran out, I ordered more. However, they now make an Enzyme cleaner. So I ordered the Enzyme cleaner and the Super Deep Cleaner. I used to use the Super Deep cleaner, followed by the Super record wash as per their previous instructions. However when the new cleaners got here I noticed that there is twice the amount of Enzyme than the Deep Cleaner. So, I'm wondering why I should use the Super Deep Cleaner at all. The Enzyme cleaner is supposed to be as good or better than the Deep cleaner from what I have read. And it is cheaper than the deep cleaner. So, is there a reason why I should spend nearly twice the $$$ and use the Deep cleaner instead of the Enzyme?
FWIW, I have been using the Enzyme cleaner and rinsing with distilled water, using my Nitty Gritty cleaning machine. The records shine like they have not done before. The Enzyme cleaner has proven to be a great cleaner IMO. The deep clean is good, but I'm not sure its as good as the Enzyme.

Anyway, anyone have any thoughts on this?
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has2be
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Ive been using the Enzyme Plus for over a year now. New or used vynil. I place the lp on a clean micro fibre cloth squirt a little around the LP and clean it with a disc doctor brush. Then on to the record cleaner for a vacuum , a clean rinse and vacuum. Getting great results. I really notice it on the used vynil which I let sit a few minutes before hitting it with the brush. A little goes a long way. Cheers
doak
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I agree that an enzyme cleaner does not take the place of a "standard" detergent type cleaner. I use the enzyme cleaner on the records that appear to need it and follow with L'Art du Son - my fave after trying many other cleaning fluids including DIY formulas. These are used in conjunction with steam cleaning which IMO is the biggest jump since my starting to use enzyme cleaners.
clio09
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From what I read you can use the Enzyme cleaner followed by the rinse. Super Deep Cleaner is no longer required.

I got a sample of the new version of the enzyme cleaner a few weeks ago. It does am improved job IMO.
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syntax
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Something interesting, when you use 1-Step cleaners:
Check your diamond, it can be possible, that it will get dirty, even when you use a RCM. The reason is the cleaning solution. Sometimes the mix is not done right and it can't be removed completely out of the grooves.
This is something you should check (no matter what machine you use). When you discover some dirt on the needle even after regular use with the RCM, switch to a enzyme based fluid. They don't show this problem.
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artemus_5 OP
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Thanks for the replies.

Doug. I have wondered about the AIVS cleaners but haven't read much about them. Then too, I've been hanging out at the low budget vinyl forum where DIY seems to reign, Maybe I should change that since I generally come here for answers anyway. I believe the AIVS cleaner is in the same price range as the MoFi cleaner too, unlike the Walker cleaner which is rather pricey.

I have not tried the steam cleaning which has become popular with some. But at this point, I'm getting good results from the MoFi Enzyme and distilled water. I may order some of the MoFi (or AIVS) Ultra pure rinse. I'll also try the AIVS cleaner but I just did get the MoFi cleaner, so it may be a while before I order it.

Anyway, thanks to all for your insight
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