Why I don't think I'll ever return to vinyl - brief rant


I am not a vinyl guy. I have a half decent turntable and a half decent cartridge and a mid-fi at best phono preamp.

But I do get the bug every now and again and will buy a vinyl album. These are mostly from new-ish artists. I buy them from their websites hoping to support them. Sometimes I am rewarded. Mac Saturn’s only album sounds really good. The Tesky Brother’s album Run Home Slow sounds amazing and is better than the CD and streaming options. I suspect it is less compressed.

Well, the bug bit again recently and I bought the Red Clay Stray’s double live album recorded at Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. It was $45 on their website. There is no CD for this album. The vinyl is thin. The edges are rough. They had some type of dusty residue on them. At then end of one of the album sides there was a spot that looked like some sort of stain or smudge. I cleaned the records and got all the residue off of them. But the one side with the stain on it, that produces an audible pop, would not come clean. The pop persists. It is at the very end of a song, mostly in the crowd noise but it still sucks.

I contacted ’support’ on their website but never got a reply. No big deal. Its $45 and it supports a band that I like.

But that sure puts me off from buying more vinyl.

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Streaming is way too complicated and troublesome. I don’t need a Mesh Router, Music Server, Network Streamer, Network Interface, Network Server, Ethernet Switch, Network Switch, Ethernet Cable, Ethernet Filter, Word Clock, clock cables, USB Cable.

I get it. You prefer vinyl. But there’s not need to make it seem like streaming is more complicated. It’s not.

Perhaps I have it wrong, but my experience is that vinyl requires more trouble. Supposedly, vinyl is straightforward—drop the needle and listen. But that’s backwards. A turntable and phono stage capable of good sound run $1,500–$5,000, and that’s just the beginning. High-fidelity turntables require precision engineering with air or magnetic bearings and optical speed control systems to manage mechanical complexity that never goes away. You’re calibrating tracking force, anti-skate, VTA, cartridge alignment. You’re dealing with vibration isolation, footfall sensitivity, acoustic feedback. The cartridge wears out every 500–1000 hours and costs hundreds to replace. Setup requires technical knowledge or professional calibration. 

On the other hand, a streaming endpoint and DAC at comparable performance—$600–$4,300 for the hardware—solves a completely different problem: digital-to-analog conversion. Once installed, it works. No calibration. No wear consumables. No sensitivity to room vibrations or footsteps. 

Turntable design solves mechanical problems that are perpetually present—wow and flutter, needle wear, tracking force drift. Streamer design solves an informational problem once, then stays solved. 

Vinyl ownership demands constant maintenance and technical attention. Streaming ownership means buying it, plugging it in, and forgetting about it. A $10k turntable requires you to stay engaged. A $10k (way too much to spend IMO) streamer just plays music.

I applaud OP for supporting artists by buying direct; I do the same. Vinyl occasionally can have problems, yet by and large things have been fine with my new purchases. Split seams and tear in inner sleeves are much more common than vinyl defects. Re cleaning new vinyl, yes an absolute necessity, and nothing new under the sun.

OP can also purchase digital files. Supports the artist likely even more than with physical media, because digital files have very little cost associated with them; maybe some server cost, and that's about it.

As the saying goes: "I got into vinyl because of the inconvenience and the expenses." Vinyl is not for everybody. Enjoy the music you own in any format.

@hoodjem Streaming is way too complicated and troublesome. I don’t need a Mesh Router, Music Server, Network Streamer, Network Interface, Network Server, Ethernet Switch, Network Switch, Ethernet Cable, Ethernet Filter, Word Clock, clock cables, USB Cable.

what am I missing? It's not complicated at all.  My only source for music is streaming - router, decent ethernet cable, Innuos Pulsar Streamer, Anzus X2 USB, Accuphase DC-1000 DAC (yes I've considered the Innuos PhoenixNET) all of which is extremely simple and sounds incredible. I'm also in the works of building a curated music library of local hi-res files but the Innuos Statement NG will make building and storing local files for playback a lot more attractive. 

hilde45

Vinyl ownership demands constant maintenance and technical attention.

Not really. It does require some periodic attention - bearing lubrication, perhaps occasional belt replacement, ensuring the table is still level. But a good turntable should remain mostly stable once properly setup.

Streaming ownership means buying it, plugging it in, and forgetting about it.

Not really. Software gets updated, routers go obsolete, DNS assignment can get erzatz, streaming services go down or change apps.

I still play LPs and I stream, too. They're different experiences.

I've got a joint-owned vinyl collection that is quite large, and goes through meticulous cleaning to give the stylus an interface I like to know is added value when achieved. 

Added to the vinyl collection is a reasonable amount of CD's to keep me occupied with using CD as a Source. The CD collection does expand in number these days faster than the vinyl.

CD is not just a source material that is liked; it also serves to allow music to be replayed, avoiding the use of the Phono Cartridge, hence creating longevity for the owned Cart's.

Regarding the owned system, I have generated indelible experiences of source materials through replays that are not crossover in how they are able to impress.

Like all who use vinyl, there are discovered Vinyl Albums that are much wanted as Titles in the collection, where a small selection are poor as a recording.

I also have CD's that are very poor as a recording, and are proven much worse than the same Album Title produced in vinyl.

There are too many replay options to feel the need to dwell on a duffer experience; onwards to the next musical encounter is the motto I prefer to use.