Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
jafant

@tomthiel, I was replying to @jafant 's suggestion that the 3.7's abilites to better fill larger rooms would then "require"  larger rooms and more power for the 3.7's than the 2.4's. Where as, I am suggesting that the 3.7's slightly larger size and slightly greater bass output, can work just as well, if not better in most of the same rooms for most users as the 2.4's, and do so with nearly half the power of the 2.4's.

tomthiel - Thanks for the clarification and update.

unsound - Yes. My 3.7s sound fabulous in a 20 x 20 x 8 room in an open floor plan (no full wall between that room and next, etc.) powered by two AHB2 monos. Not a problem.

@tmsrdg , at the risk of appearing to be just contrarian; I’m of the opinion that the brideged AHB2 monos might not be the ideal amplifiaction for the the 3.7’s

Thiel CS3.7 Owner’s Information (Page 10 of 25) | ManualsLib

Benchmark AHB2 Power Amplifier – Benchmark Media Systems

The bridged Benchmark amps are not spec’d below 4 Ohms, and even at 4 Ohms don’t follow Thiel’s reccomendations for doubling down.

The 3.7’s have a minimum impedance of 2.8 Ohms.

While Tom Thiel’s above post above is spot on re: musical content and lstening levlels, the 3.7’s  with differernt amplification that had better current delivery would be better suited to maximize the 3.7’s potential.

The bridged mono AHB2's might be better suited to speakers that though less sensitive have a higher minimum impedance.

I've been living with and loving a pair of AHB2s for about 5 years. Part of my experience includes comparison with some 'big' amps at Duramax747's listening room. I've never dared push any hi fi system as hard as he does. We were driving the CS5i, The impedance curve differs from the 3.7, but both are very low. The AHB doesn't hold up very well under heavy load. Benchmark showed me graphs supporting amp stability down to 1.5 ohms, below which the signal is interrupted. It is safe. But it isn't as agile and authoritative as they claim.

This next thought is presently for the DIY in some of you. I have tested bi-amping Thiels with very good results. Much of Jim's rejection of bi-amp / bi-wire was defensive. It is all too easy to screw things up. But, conscious players using short speaker runs, identical in every way, can get excellent results. I use the AHB2s and my pair of Classé DR9s in stereo mode which effectively doubles their source impedance behavior vs bridged mode. The XO is split to equalize the speaker load between channels. In the 5, I drive the 3 woofers with one channel and the 3 upper drivers with the other. In the 3.7 I would try splitting the woofer vs the 2 coax drivers. The loads are not equal, but they are complementary; lots of headroom is needed for the big voltage spikes in the midrange.

Of course it's not ready for prime time and YMMV. The point is that the purported gains of bridging become effectively moot for most real world amplifiers driving very low impedance loads. Amps working in their 'normal' stereo mode are much happier.