I suspect there is a fair amount of truth in the story the videos tell but these videos also are representative of the AI slop that is permeating YouTube. I have trouble putting much faith in any videos that don’t have a real live presenter. It doesn’t help when the narrator says“1974“ and the number 2000 flashes on the screen.
Things you did not know about what is inside your speakers and the Huge markups
Just check out this short video it unleashes a lot of cats out of the bag with drivers being marked up to 12+ times please all the totally unrealistic add ons it was normally a 5x markup on speakers including packaging now sometimes 50x msrkup they say R&D and engineering , having owned a audio store for a decade and a consumer and Xover and upgrades I did part time 8 hav3 seen it all in speakers and electronics check this out. https://m.youtube.com/watchfwjZ8rpczY
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@ghdprentice wrote:
The late Peter Snell did great things with his Type A's with the use of cheap drivers, but because of that it can't be denied they had their limitations in certain respects; there can be an incentive to cut the cost of parts for nothing but that, so just because there's a want for more expensive drivers (totally taken out of context of the overall design of a particular speaker it may be) doesn't necessarily mean it isn't warranted and can, ultimately, lead to better sound. Then of course it's likely a very different design, so no doubt a better idea would be to look elsewhere for other speakers.
Agreed, except "paying for [...] the engineering required" is a cousin to the chosen markup multiplier, which is - essentially - set by the rules of The Wild West and therefore makes it nigh on impossible to have price being a reliable bearing.
But is it really that simple - I mean, does it boil down to the claim that it's about judging a speaker solely on the basis of its bill of materials? I anything that's a convenient takeaway that fails to take into account how better/more expensive parts in conjunction with a carefully executed design can lead to a more complete sonic package.
You could say that about any differentiated design regardless of cost, but since you refer to speakers where one is twice the price of the other, do you really mean to say the more expensive one is objectively better (and not just different)? If that's the case I don't see how you would. Markup multiplier + luxury finishing is dead weight and inversely proportional to value, so throwing that by the wayside in some measure leaves more room for better parts in addition to letting good engineering be more widely accessible to more people. |
There are almost always two variable when comparing audio components, sound family and sonic quality. It is important to be able to tell the difference. I've been listening to audio components for decades and often listen to a single company speaker like Sonus Faber, Wilson, DynAudiom or B&W. So my comment on difference between $5K and $10K is about performance within a category... or sound family. |
Assuming a competently designed crossover (which isn’t difficult these days) 90% of speaker performance comes down to the drivers and cabinet construction. Crossover part “quality” has very little actual impact on performance; and yes, I’ve conducted enough trials to know. There are cases where inexpensive drivers (Tectonic BMRs for example) can rival far pricier drivers if utilized well within their comfortable range. The rip-off speakers are those that retail for $5K^ but are equipped with the likes of $50/each Seas Prestige drivers. Many brand’s in-house manufactured drivers are severely overrated as well (some Dynaudio and Focal stuff for example). |
There are Speaker Companies that design and Produce Speakers that are sold at a near a 500% - 1000% Mark Up. Then to be sold for a period of time by Distributors/Retailers at another 100%-200% Mark Up. Speakers produced by these companies can be found regularly with retail pricing for a final customer between $20K - $200K. These are the only Speakers worth buying. Everything suggests they are the very, very best option, as their price dictates how good they are as a speaker. The escalated markup ensures there will be adequate packaging used when shipping occurs. Note: In the US, certain States don't have to comply with usual retail warranty legislation. The escalation in pricing added on by the Vendor might get a Customer a 30 Day warranty, if really lucky, a 365 Day Warranty. Is it really a reality that the above is the only option to a customer? Is there no other way for a customer of the above purchase method to realise a high-quality performing speaker to be used in their audio system? |
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