@pryso Yes we might have met at that small San Diego dealership. That is precisely where I met Bob Fulton. Definitive Audio. I was a Naval officer and worked there part time when I could. Later and for much longer I worker at Breier Sound Center too.
What does "Warm" mean?
In his post today Paul McGowan ([email protected]) had a pretty good post on the subject of warmth. Here is his definition: "The word usually points at a few related things. There's a slight rise in the lower midrange and upper bass — the region where male voices, cellos, lower piano notes, and the body of most instruments live. There's a softness at the very top, a rounding off of transient energy that feels easier on the ear over long sessions. And there's a sense of weight and body in the music, a presence that makes acoustic instruments feel three-dimensional rather than etched in air. When all three of those things show up together, listeners reach for "warm" because nothing else describes it as quickly."
Paul then goes on to discuss both the good and the bad of this set of characteristics. In general I associate warmth with harmonic distortion, but prefer it to the stridency or harshness that I associate with intermodular distortion. I think most people would agree. Since we all live with a certain amount of distortion, more in analog than in digital playback, I wonder what others think about warmth, or lack of same, and their tolerance or lack of same in their own listening preferences.
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Dear @billstevenson : My reference always is live MUSIC seated at near field position and listening at live SPL. You know what? Warm just does not exist down there. Now,in home room/systems each one of us choose the everykind distortions developed by each system. W can't avoid those distortions/added colorations. MUSIC is accurated: pentagram/diagram scores, harmonics, orechestra instruments sound same " tone " to start. Nothing is at random.
In my system I don't like those added ( everywhere and every kind ) " colorations " so I try harder to left at minimum. In that way Ilistened warm when the recording engineering/producer and the like recorded that way that LP.
Your TTs comparison you posted could have several reasons to what you listen is happening: maybe different cartridges on each TT, better damped Technics magnesium tonearm and headshell that the Denon build materials. Both TTs are really good and one reviewer said that that Denon model competes with his Technics SP10MK2. Btw, accurated does not means " analitical " or " excessive detail "only means : accurated and if you make what I did it in my system you always be enjoying MUSIC better than ever before because your system willsound fullemotional, great transient response, excellent rhytm, no fatiguated ears jus astonished/outstanding and no matters if the room/system is truly expen$$ive or just normal to your budget. The name in the analogue audio is not $$$$$$ ( of course that $ always is important ) butknowledge and skills each one of us levels that changes according each one ignorance level.
Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R
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@billstevenson, That was Mission Bay Audio. The owner was a psychiatrist who initially ran the store out of his office. But he soon moved to a commercial location on W. Mission Bay Drive. He was a character and addicted to J Gordon Holt's recommendations. I think he called Holt weekly. So he sold FMI, Audio Research, and Magnepan with only a few other brands. I was also familiar with Breier's, first on Park Blvd in Hillcrest, then in Kearny Mesa. Actually I was probably familiar with all the audio stores in the San Diego area during the decades I lived there. And I have stories about several of them. Mostly Audio Directions, during the mid-70s. One owner, Ike, was known for two bits of advice: The only specifications that are critical are the component width, depth, and weight. That will tell you if it fits on your shelf and if the shelf should be strong enough to hold it. No one agrees on which is the best loudspeaker. But most everyone agrees the second best is the LS3/5a. |
It’s interesting that the description of “ warm” vs “cool” light is quite similar to audio version. From Google: Warm light and cool light are distinguished by their color temperature, measured in Kelvin (K). Warm light (2700K - 3000K) mimics sunset with soft yellow-orange tones, creating cozy, relaxing spaces like bedrooms. Cool light (4000K - 6500K) mimics bright daylight, providing a crisp, bluish-white appearance that boosts energy, focus, and visual clarity in workspaces and kitchens. [1, 2]
Its counterintuitive that warmer light has slower color temperature in degrees K vs cooler light. |
@pryso My memory is playing tricks on me. The guy who owned the store was a doctor, Mission Bay was where the store was located. Audio Research, Magnapan is right, we had Tympani IVs on the floor in one room and Fulton Js in the front. So, I must have the name wrong. Breier was on Park Blvd. in Hillcrest. I left the Navy and San Diego in 1978. I don't agree with anyone about the best anything. In my book there is no such thing. Good speakers should be as flat as possible in terms of frequency response. LS3/5a are good, but they don't play loud and have no bass. I gave mine to my sister. |
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