The Shunyata Research OMEGA-X-Ethernet Cable

@seymour-krelborn 

I tried to be nice to you.

What’s all this drivel? Ramblings without staying on topic.

Very unconvincing. I showed my Son this post you wrote about me and he said you must be high on drugs.

@frank009 has never done that.  He just bashes what he envies, trying to convince himself that he is not missing out.  Along the way, he will pick up a cable denier straggler or two, and that makes him feel a little better, but still he remains envious.

I am basing my conclusion on @frank009 never writing that he did any cable swaps, with quality cables (the ones he is bashing), on a revealing stereo.  He harps on science, science, and science, and he is not a scientist.  I doubt that he has ever heard a revealing stereo.

And science cannot measure all audio gear’s sonic properties, today.  Decades from now, perhaps.  But not today.

And any real scientist will put her findings into practice.  In the case of cables, she would use her ears.  But not @frank009.  He tells us that we should believe his scientific claims, and ignore what we hear.  His computers work fine with standard cables, so stereos will not benefit from better quality cables, based on him never testing his assertions.

You don’t know me in person. If you did, you may learn how to write a more cohesive case against someone, attacking their knowledge and credibility. I find your arguments to be exceptionally weak and irrational. Sorry, just stating it like it is.

@OP Have you listened to the sonic effect of various Ethernet cables or have you simply decided "in your head" that no difference exists? I'm genuinely curious to know.

@frank009 

I tried to be nice to you.

You wrote it on the internet, so it is true.

And writing to someone that you tried to be nice is a deceptive way of implying that you could debate them under the table -- but you are being nice and holding back.

How can I thank you for your kindness for not exposing my ignorance?

What’s all this drivel? Ramblings without staying on topic.

...writes the man who I just quoted writing drivel; a rambling accusation, where the writer could have easily quoted my alleged drivel and ramblings -- but did not.

I showed my Son this post you wrote about me and he said you must be high on drugs.

Now you attempt to bait me to challenge a child.  How noble of you to bring a child into the dialog.  Assuming you have a child, what high-end systems has he demoed?

@frank009, you are a BS artist, bashing products that you never heard, nor touched, nor were ever in the same room with.  How do I know?  My son told me so (see how simple it is to make up BS?).

I'll have to bow out for now.

Drew Barrymore and Valerie Bertinelli are dropping by to play on my private Pickle Ball court.

DeKay

@yoyoyaya 

@OP Have you listened to the sonic effect of various Ethernet cables or have you simply decided "in your head" that no difference exists? I'm genuinely curious to know.

I have tried, even with very high end streamers. i don't even like streams anyway, but gave it a shot.

In every case, the dealer/salesman was adjusting the volume slightly higher or lower. How do I know this? I brought a friend with me who was "on his phone" and he made sure to watch the guy like a hawk,  noticed the him doing this while I was "browsing the store." Each time I returned to listen to a new song (I said I needed to clear my palate) this volume change was made.

You can go ahead and call me a liar. I'm telling you about my honest, real-world experiences. You can go ahead and try to mock me. Water off a raincoat. My beliefs are my own and I don't owe anyone appeasement.

If that clashes with what you believe about something audio related that has turned in to a form of extremism (Like some who are ultra-religious) then more power to you.

Long story short - Ethernet is a MATURE technology. When you say the sound changed, what you are most likely to reference are inconsistent volume levels and/or the difference between a poorly constructed ethernet cable with bad shielding in an otherwise heavily noise polluted environment from other electronic devices. 

Aside from meeting the JDEC specification, an ethernet cable should also be well shielded. I cannot stress this enough; because our modern world is full of electronics such as Wi-Fi and other wireless technologies like bluetooth, radio frequencies going through you outlets, etc. That it just makes sense to isolate your audio equipment from these noise sources; even if they have robust circuits that should nullify the noise.