It may be too late, but take a look at the furman reference series which absolutely outclasses the Elite series. Theyre expensive, but can be found, used on ebay. Easier version (the Ref 15 and Ref 20) are essentially the same as the new Ref 15i and Ref 20i).
Shunyata Venon V16 or Furman Elite 20pfi
Hi, All,
So I currently have a Furman Elite 20pfi with everything in my rig (system does double duty for music and HT) plugged into it. Including the Puron AC Power Conditioner (this thing absolutely lowered the noise floor when I plugged it into the Furman). I took advantage of the 40% off sale and bought the V16. Received it yesterday. However I see that the V16 does not offer surge protection whereas the Furman does. I did not realize this. I should mention I have my system on a dedicated 20Amp circuit and I also have a whole house surge protector. Is this a deal breaker, should I just return the Shunyata? I did read, almost unanimously, that the V16 will improve the sound and lower cross interference by isolating.
Thoughts? And should the V16 not offering surge protection be a deal breaker?
Thanks in advance...,
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@patrickalston Thank you for taking the time to respond. I had always looked at the Reference series and would have absolutely gone that route but the cost was too rich for my blood. Only reason I jumped on the V16 was the 40% off sale which brought it into my wheelhouse. Otherwise I’d have been completely content with the Elite. However of all the comparisons between V16 and Elite, it was pretty much unanimous that V16 brought audible improvements. |
OP, I got a pretty massive improvement when I purchased my shunyata MPC-12c and I even use the analog section for my amplifiers. I kept trying the wall outlet instead when people would swear by it but I'm getting a substantial improvement by using the mpc-12c. Ask Shunyata but pretty sure they will say to plug your amp into the venom as well. Definitely try this. Do not listen to people who say "don't plug your amp in" without trying it. Most of them aren't using Shunyata equipment which I've found is superior for amplifiers. Also if you have another dedicated circuit that is on the same phase, consider plugging all digital components into that separate outlet. I found this did better than the mpc-12 because the noise from the digital components aren't even on the same circuit. YMMV I don't know if the venom is as solid of a unit as my Gemini 8 or my MPC-12C but I notice a substantial different when my amplifier is plugged into it. Increased openness and transients are unpacked much better. Experiment. Don't just listen to people's opinions on these things!! And yes a whole home surge protection is probably the way to go! |
Thanks for the thoughtful reply @jrareform. Interesting point on the amp. When I bought my Earthquake Joseph Sayhoun the owner off Earthquake called me and we spoke quite a few times. What a great guy. And boy he is one hell of a character! He was adamant about going direct to the wall with the amp. I mean he was adamant. The funny thing is before the Earthquake I had the Simaudio Moon Titan 5 channel. I had always had that going into the Furman. I reached out to the folks at Sim and they too insisted I go direct to the outlet and bypass the Furman. As soon as I did this I noticed immediate improvements! I was shocked at how much cleaner and open the sound was. I couldn’t have imagined just bypassing the Furman how much the sound improved…to your point that was the Furman not Shunyata. But I’ll try it! Appreciate that tip! Only that would suck if that improves the sound is the Furman (soon to be the Shunyata) is right next to my amp. The outlet is quite a bit away, so I had to get a 10 foot power cable (luckily found a great deal on a used Shunyata Alpha V1) to reach the outlet. So if going to the Shunyata improves the sound I’ll have a thick a$$ 10 ft power cable within less than 2 feet between the amp and V16😂🤷🏼♂️. Good stuff thanks for the reply!
@zlone appreciate the reply. I do kind of have high hopes for the V16 after reading all the comments favoring the V16. But indeed only one way to tell. Thankfully I was assured that all Shunyata units have surge protection. Thankfully I’m in NH and while we do get our share of thunder storms, it’s nothing like Fl. |
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