Enter the modern hifi world. Try this test.


HiBy FC1 vs. just about any modern or vintage DAC out there. 

Cost? Just around 20 dollars or so.

I doubt anyone will be able to tell a difference with their system. 

Let’s assume  the following case scenario: 

1. same speakers

2. same cables 

3. same amplifier 

 

The test:

Use a 3.5mm cable to RCA or balanced in to your preamplifier or integrated amplifier on a spare input. 

basically, it’s 2v plus a little extra mw, designed to drive headphones. 

If anything it’ll be a bit louder than your system, but fundamentally, you won’t be able to hear any difference between it and any solid-state DAC out there in terms of resolution, detail, timing, or instruments/vocals clarity.

Why? Because digital audio has advanced to the point where we are at its limits, and can shrink down the electronics this small, without sacrificing anything. Just look at how far computers and smartphones have come. Audio reproduction is no different in the digital domain.

frank009

 

frank009 OP

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@audphile1 

You are the most classless person I’ve ever encountered on a forum. Downright insulting, extremely rude, and pretentious, with an overwhelming desire to have the moral high ground, even though it doesn’t belong to you.
 

says you after posting this…

@frank009 

….

Now my wife is a complete idiot. she mistakes 10 to 15 mistakes a day. So maybe you have had better luck.

yeah I’m classless. Sure  

Hey you’ve been a member here for only a few days and you already posted 2 useless, trolling cable discussions, one of which was removed. Now you continue to troll but it’s with a dongle DAC that apparently sounds amazing via a 3.5mm to RCA adapter cable, and competes with any modern DAC. You must live in some kind of multiverse. Or have a case of temporary insanity. This is all the troll chow I’ll give you. Have fun. I’m done here.

 

 

@frank009 

….

Now my wife is a complete idiot. she mistakes 10 to 15 mistakes a day. So maybe you have had better luck.

Yes, I did say the above and you quoted me verbatim. It is frustrating or rather disappointing to have a wife like her. You have no idea what I have had to go through. She used to be normal when we met, but she become extraordinarily clumsy and difficult after her and I married. She threatened to sue me or make false allegations against me when I suggested divorce; and I don’t want any trouble. No problem. My system keeps me happy and she spends all her time making silly mistakes anyway. Thank God or whatever you believe in that YOU don’t have to deal with this.

Again, you have the nerve to call me a troll without trying the test for yourself. 

3.5mm to RCA is an UNBALANCED signal, and works the same way as standard RCA to RCA cables that are commonly found on most audio electronics. Seems you don’t even know that. BALANCED connections with XLR connectors are commonly used for microphones and pro audio/PA/broadcast grade gear; and I doubt you’ve even seen your fair share of REAL WORLD systems and PROFESSIONAL audio environments; living in your pretentious self righteous audiophile bubble, with a probably very average-performing mid-fi system; believing you've reached the peak. Keep telling yourself that....else reality is a tough pill to swallow.

This goes to show you are afraid of the results. So you must be the troll here.

Try the test yourself, follow what I’ve written to a tee, then we’ll see whose right and who is wrong.

@audphile1 

 

Possibly Kenjit is back ?

thankfully my tube DAC appears to be exempt from this…. 

@tomic601  

Bias current and Plate voltage together perfectly explain why (at least on the surface) how you arrive at "tube sound" 

It's really fascinating. 

Even certain types of transistors in amplifiers can color the sound in different, sometimes enjoyable ways.

Who is Kenjit?

I've got Grandchildren off the age where they are now listening to music through their phones with earbuds. It is easy for me to buy into the HiBy FC1, under the guise that I can improve the listening experience for the G'kids.

I don't see buying something like this as a waste; I see it as a purchase that will be an item I investigate prior to my passing it to G'kids, to see how it works with the listening experiences created.

I have just purchased a SS DAC, as my first SS DAC owned. My system's DAC is a Valve DAC. I am keen to listen to a full SS digital system bypassing any Valve equipment I own. A hybrid system will also be trialled as well.

Curiosity is a two-edged sword, and in this case, when the SS DAC is fully assessed, I would really enjoy learning how a very affordable device offering a near equivalent fundamental function compares. Why Not?  

Obviously, If a purchase is made of a HiBy FC1, I would really like to see it be a reasonable description of the OP's experience. 

A friend who owned extremely expensive headphones and also built headphones that surpassed expensive branded models, ventured into a period of trials of very affordable headphones, where the price was not above £50. Using user reviews and their own knowledge, they discovered by chance a headphone they claimed to be exceptional value for money and capable of creating a very positive impression. A headphone they were willing to recommend.  Why can't this be the case with a Digital conversion?