audiophile folklore - cables and claims from manufacturers


The cable debate.

Cables make a difference, sure. 

But SHOULD they?

I have been grappling with this question for the better part of 20 years! 

Fanatical claims from manufacturers, talking about how their cables will improve your system in specific ways, sonically. 

More accurate bass, cleaner midrange sounds, treble resolution... etc. soundstage and imaging, you get the idea.

The fundamental disconnect is - they have never heard YOUR system! 

So then, how do they know what their cables will sound like in your system. Not to mention, astronomical prices on some of these interconnects. The wilder the claims, the higher the cost.

The behavior we should be looking for is passing on the signal, with as little losses as possible. That can be done relatively cheaply, with well made professional interconnects that cost less than 100 dollars in most cases.

If you could build an audio system (all of it) from thrift store finds and cables really did make that much of a difference, then wouldn’t the sound quality scale that way?

It seems many audiophiles I know are in denial. And even worse, some use cables as TONE controls! This is where audiophoolery becomes a religion. Audio dealers promote it, because it impacts their bottom line! 

frank009

It seems like nothing more than you side-stepping what I said with some fancy words you looked up only recently, using some kind of thesaurus, and the help of ChatGPT.

No, I don’t need AI to spot logical fallacies - they stick out like a sore thumb. If you look at my posting history here, you’ll see that I periodically point out these silly fallacies, often promoted by trolls or newbies with an agenda. And as I often observe, it’s those who want to be seen as "objective" that are most often responsible. Odd, isn’t it?

@cleeds 

To do anything correctly in life, you have to be objective. It’s not an option, it’s a necessity. 

I have no such mystery agendas for you to investigate, inspector gadget. 

If you can’t be objective then you can’t be responsible. It’s that simple. 

Going back to DACs - I had said clearly (and stated with confidence) that DIFFERENT headphone DACs sound different, you know, the type you plug in to a smartphone to get output? This is one of the easiest and most modern ways to get wonderful sound quality with speaker systems and with headphones.

I praised a particular device, and further said that the brand in question makes good stuff. And that’s true. It’s fact. You can’t refute it.

Now are there manufacturers that produce total garbage and sell you a ton of measurements on their webpage that are measured using resistive loads, rather than proper reactive loads? 

Absolutely. This is where tons of global feedback ruins output by correcting after the fact, looping the waveform, arriving at extremely low THD numbers when it is the lack of compromises and the simplicity of the circuit that lead to the best sound quality.

"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."

Therefore, simple solid-state DACs without unnecessary variables often sound more transparent. Why? Because you get closer to the original signal.A shorter signal path is a higher fidelity signal path. It's a fact, you can't deny it.

That’s a famous quote. You can learn from it.

A shorter signal path is a higher fidelity signal path. It's a fact, you can't deny it.

It's not a fact so it most certainly can be refuted. Rather, it's a concept which is sometimes true, but not always. There are inherent advantages to short signal paths for sure, but potential disadvantages as well.

"I don’t really care how other people view me on this forum..."

Hoo! That's a good thing...

A shorter signal path is a higher fidelity signal path. It's a fact, you can't deny it.

If that were true wouldn't integrated amps always sound better than separates, and wouldn't all-in-ones sound best?