Power Distributors: Shunyata Delta-X, AudioQuest Niagara 5000, and PS Audio PowerPlant 12


Decided to start a new thread that accurately reflects my current thoughts.

We moved and the house has some electrical issues. An electrician is addressing them for use. One issue is a wide voltage swing identified by my 20 year old Panamax 5300 (98-145 volts). Wide swings happen in this area but normally between 100-140 volts. The electrician is work with the utility company to minimize this on our property. He is also installing a dedicated 20A line for the stereo system.

I have already ordered a Furman P-2400 AR (recommended by Furman) to help protect the system from wide voltage swings. The Panamax is ready for retirement.

I plan to install a power conditioner/distributor that will utilize the protection the Furman provides. I will probably run my XA-25, one sub, and maybe both Acoustat 1+1 speakers directly through the Furman. The conditioner/distributor will handle everything else.

The three models listed in the title are my short list. The Delta-X with an Shunyata Alpha-X XC cord runs $6000 for The Cable Company. The Delta-X is $4500 without any cable, and the Alpha-X MSRP is $2800. This will be my most expensive cable if this is selected. The Niagara 5000 is $6900 ($3999 from TMR with stock cable). The PowerPlant 12 is $5999 (approx $4000 with Panamax trade from PS Audio and approximately $3000 used from TMR with stock cable).

So here is the apples to apples choice: Delta-X at $4500, Niagara 5000 at $4000, and PowerPlant 12 at $3000. What are your concerns and recommendations?

If I go with the Delta-X, do I need, or want, the Alpha-X XC? 

 

thriftyaudio

@thriftyaudio 

Glad I gave you some place to vent!

@cleeds 

Voltage drop would never be a concern unless you want to go deaf! Big power amplifiers never reach their maximum power output into very low resistances for the very reason you mentioned, the powerline sag. A huge amp with a maximum 20 amp draw on a 20 amp mains is going to behave just like a 15 amp one on a 15 amp mains.

@thriftyaudio your Panamax 5300 is none the worse for wear after 20 years since there are very few active components in the thing except for the MOV on the AC input and if the unit ever delt with a surge large enough to open it, it would be dead. The only other active component is the one that disengages the power when yours goes out requiring you to turn the unit back on manually when your neighborhood's power is restored. Personally, I think you'll be hard pressed to find a power conditioner as well thought out ergonomically and with as many useful AC receptacles on it, especially the fact that they are oriented with the ground lug on top which prevents heavy power cords from inching their way out of the socket. It also has the simple dimmable voltage and amp indicators on the front. As well, you can easily replace it if it breaks for less than $600 or if it takes a hit eventually and it isn't completely fried you can replace the MOV and you're back in business. It's nice to be extravagant but pragmatic is better.

 

 

Voltage drop would never be a concern unless you want to go deaf!

You're simply mistaken. I've surprised more than a few people with what a Fluke meter can show about AC power delivery, especially for those with second-rate electric utilities.

A huge amp with a maximum 20 amp draw on a 20 amp mains is going to behave just like a 15 amp one on a 15 amp mains.

You're claiming two different amplifiers with different power requirements will perform the same? That makes no sense.

@faustuss Yep, I am being a bit extravagant ... and I like it. Once a year I do this with my stereo. I could be doing much worse.

@faustuss @cleeds My Delta X has been delayed by Shunyata due to a supplier issue. The electrician just completed the upgrade of my electrical system with an IG 20A line. I was using the Panamax for a day just to establish a baseline.

I decided to compare the Panamax 5300 to the Furman 2400. The Furman is significantly heavier and I thought the impact might be positive. My wife walked in while the Furman was playing and asked what happened to the music. She thought the music sounded "more detailed and nicer." Her words.

She was right. The Furman definitely improved everything. The Panamax will move to the third system in the garage. I am looking forward to comparing the Furman with the Delta-X. Ultimately, I hope my wife hears a difference. I believe I can be influenced by what I think should be the best.