Is Sound Stage an artifact of recording?


Yesterday had the opportunity to hear a fine chamber music concert featuring musicians from the NY Philharmonic in a small modern chapel with a slightly domed wooden roof. We sat about 15-20 feet from the musicians. The all acoustic sound was excellent. The Schubert Trout piano quintet  and Brahms piano quartet in G were the program. Afterwards while de-briefing at dinner with an audiophile friend who went with me and our wives, he made the point that despite the excellent acoustics and premier seating he could not close his eyes and see a "sound stage" during the concert. I had noticed the same thing. The locations of the instruments were diffuse. You could not pinpoint the location of the violin as you might expect you could on a good recording of the same work! We agreed that this was not the first time we had noticed this about live music. So I put the question to learned assembly here on Audiogon. Is sound stage something that is invented or perhaps just an artifact of the recording process to help us get the illusion of real musicians playing in front of us. Responses from those of you who have made recordings will be particularly appreciated.

bruce19

The effect is even more pronounced when listening mid hall to a full orchestra. I am on record saying that the whole soundstage thing is a parlor trick inside a parlor trick. But if someone enjoys that sort of thing, absolutely, go for it, you are spending your own money, you deserve enjoyment.

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It’s largely  a matter of perspective at an acoustic live event.  Where are you located relative to the players?  Usually not very close and you hear as much or more reflected sound than direct. 
 

Recordings are similar but different.  The producers and engineers control what you hear as part of the production process.  Similar scenario when electronic amplification, mixing and production is involved with a live concert.  
 

Every recording is different.  That’s part of what makes them so interesting. 
 

 

A concert hall has a huge advantage.It was expressly designed to have excellent acoustics. Rooms at home are not.

I regularly go to operas and concerts. At times I can pinpoint instruments, especially percussion, but mostly not. 

Creating a "sound stage" on recordings is an attempt to recreate that sound environment at home. It is a nearly impossible task. The best approach to recording orchestral music is to place microphones in such a manner that the "concert hall" experience, not a "sound stage" is reproduced as accurately as possible.

Classical music and operas are unique in this respect. Other types of music rely on electronic effects (both during and post recording) to achieve desired results. Recordings of live performances usually have more energy than studio recordings but suffer from the mistakes that are usual in live performances.

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