Power Tube Failure


A little while ago a small tube (in my Phono-Preamp) died.  It was a subtle affair in which the tube turned white and the glass cracked, not necessarily in that order.  This failure was interesting, but not dangerous.

Yet, this event got me wondering - what happens when a power tube dies?

My Preamp's power tube runs quite hot, and I am concerned it may be a FIRE HAZARD when that tube fails. 

My second concern is that my Preamp may be DAMAGED when the power tube dies.

So, I am hoping to hear from anyone who has EXPERIENCED a power tube failure and can provide any insight regarding what to expect. 

 

notes:

a. Yes, my Preamp counts hours, but I own several power tubes and do not know how many hours of service each has provided. 

b. Testing these tubes is not plausible - I do not have a tube-tester, and there are no HiFi retailers within a reasonable driving distance.

Thanks in advance for your stories!

Best,

inagroove

@wsrrsw 

+1 Amplitrex. I have used one, it does an excellent job measuring many parameters. 

I own an Amplitrex and it does measure a lot of parameters, displays all the values as well as the expected values, and it even gives a rough overall evaluation, such as bad, weak, etc.  It is virtually idiot proof--select the tube from a dropdown menu and it will tell you which socket to use, it will warm up the tube for the proper time before running the test and it will then give the results.  Because it tests at full power, it gives a more honest assessment than most other tube testers.  If you are really ambitious, you can hook it up to a laptop to actually curve trace the tube.  It may take some expertise to interpret the curve tracing result, but, that is the way to match tube.  The BIG bad news is that it is expensive.

The other tube tester that gets raves from serious users is the eTracer.  This can be gotten with various additional features that allow for testing of very high power tubes and for convenience in not having to manually adjust settings (Amplitrex also does not require any manual settings) and it even comes in kit form for someone who wants to save money (the kit is supposedly difficult to assemble).  I know a serious tube guy with literally dozens of tube testers and this is his favorite (he owns two Amplitrex among his collection).

A tube tester can’t predict failure.

Also signal tubes if they blow should not damage your amplifier because they don’t carry a lot of current. A power s different and I guess is more likely to damage amplifier if it has a catastrophic failure. But if it’s a well built amp there should be some protection built into the amplifier to prevent damage.

I’m waiting to hear for bad sounds on my amplifier. I’ve got 28 tubes and I’m not going around and testing them all the time.

Maybe a tube tester is a good idea. I have some NOS tubes which I’m finding are unpredictable and when I change out my tubes I’m probably going to live with recently made tubes. I purchased some small NOS tubes made by Telefunken and had to replace many of them after 1 year of service, They seem unpredictable. The power tubes I’m using are stock tubes and when they go I’ll replace with probably golden lions because that sounds like a good cool thing to do because of positive sentiment and because the name of the tubes is really neat.

So fancy old NOS tubes are too risky for my amplifier and despite the source of where the nos tubes came from which is very credible I’ll probably never buy another NOS tube. 

I find that going back to solid state amplifiers is difficult because they really don't sound very good and the distortion is different and crude. Although some of the well-made solid state amplifiers which are very very expensive might be worthwhile but generally I don't like solid state at all. I have McIntosh 611 solid state and they're very nice but listening to mid range and vocals is not as good. Overall they are just not comfortable to listen to. But I need them for back up in case one of my tube amplifiers goes bad.

 

NOS authentic Telefunken quitting after one year ? Something is wrong here, it shouldn't happen.

Mullards 12AX7 long plates from 1950s in my VAC have about 2500 hours after two an half years and keep going. I expect 2500-5000 hours more out of them.