why are sellers to be trusted, but buyers are not?


We buy and sell on sites like this so there is an exchange of 2 things that  have  an agreed upon equal value

  1. the item being sold from a seller
  2. money from a buyer

in all cases, the seller must be trusted to send the item as described, but the buyer is not trusted to send the money. And more and more, sellers are insisting to be paid in ways that have no recourse for the buyer, like PayPal F&F, Venmo, etc.

The item and the money are of equal value.. so why is one party to be trusted and the other is not? Why does the seller always insist on waiting to get paid before they ship? Why doesn’t the buyer insisting on getting the item before they will pay for it?

I have hundreds of perfect feedback going back over 20 years  on multiple platforms, but the seller always insists I pay them first even if they have much, much less feedback. Why should I trust them if they don't trust me?

just curious

 

 

herman

Have you ever bought anything that you did not have to pay first? If so name one! I sure can’t!!

Cash Before Shipment (CBS) is a payment term where the buyer pays the seller in full before the goods are shipped, ensuring the seller receives payment upfront.

What CBS Means

Cash Before Shipment (CBS) requires the buyer to make payment before the seller releases the goods. This is commonly used in international trade or transactions with new customers to reduce the risk of non-payment. It is similar to buying a concert ticket online—you pay first, then receive the product or service. CBS is sometimes also referred to as Cash with Order (CWO) or Payment in Advance (PIA), depending on whether partial or full payment is required before shipment.

 

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Advantages for Sellers

Considerations for Buyers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@herman 

The core of this imbalance is structural. Money is liquid, universally accepted, and instantly transferable. Goods, on the other hand, are variable—condition, authenticity, and even existence can be uncertain. That naturally creates a bias toward “cash first” as a form of protection.

But there’s also a behavioral layer. Sellers tend to view their risk, shipping an item and not getting paid as more immediate and tangible than the buyer’s risk of sending money and receiving nothing or something misrepresented. Even a buyer with a long, spotless track record often carries less weight than that perceived risk.

The result is a system where trust isn’t mutual; it’s front-loaded onto one party.

So maybe the better question isn’t “why won’t sellers ship first,” but rather: why aren’t we using mechanisms that balance risk on both sides? Escrow services and Goods & Services payments exist for exactly this reason. Yes, they come with fees, but they distribute trust instead of demanding it from one side. When both parties do their due diligence, there’s recourse for everyone.

For example, I won’t ship floor-standing speakers or sensitive electronics via standard ground services like FedEx or UPS. Those items need to be palletized and shipped freight because managing risk properly matters just as much as completing the sale. This not only inspire trust but also builds confidence in buyers. 

At the end of the day, insisting on zero risk for yourself while asking the other party to assume all of it isn’t really trust—it’s leverage.

Buying and selling today can feel like the Wild West. As a seller, I pass on bargain hunters. As a buyer, I avoid those with unrealistic expectations.

What’s worked for me is simple: patience when selling and thorough due diligence when buying.

"in all cases, the seller must be trusted to send the item as described, but the buyer is not trusted to send the money"

@herman - In the words of Bruce Hornsby:

"That's just the way it is, some things'll never change."

Steps that buyers and sellers can take to protect themselves have been covered in these threads ad nauseam.  Almost nothing in life is without risk.  If your tolerance for risk is very low, the best you can do would be to either make your audio equipment purchases in person, or from a retailer.  You could also consider the golden rule (those with the gold rule) and ask your seller to send your purchase in advance of your payment.  Everything is a negotiation, so the worst they can say is no.