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PayPal just blocked my account for using F&F

I used to be steadfast in refusing to use F&F because it is less secure, but also because it cheats PP out of their fees. However, so many people are just as steadfast in their refusal to use regular PP that I finally gave up and started to do it. Now PP has flagged my account and locked it until I explain why I am using it.

It looks like the days of circumventing their fees by using F&F may be coming to a close.

Wondering what's the best alternative. They own Venmo now so that free option will probably go away. I have Zelle but the limit is so low it is impractical. I actually prefer ACH transfers, but so many people are paranoid about giving you their checking account info it is a struggle. BTW, the only info you have to give is what is printed on the face of every check you have ever written, but for some reason, a lot of people freak out when you ask them for it.

herman
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artemus_5
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@stereo5 

The refund was in PayPal limbo for  7 business days, then rerouted to the CC issuer for the refund.

Are you sure it was Paypal limbo? Transactions via Agon are routed through Agon aren't they? Several years ago I bought a tonearm which the seller didn't get paid. I had to help him go through Agon to get his payment. This was 3-4 months later. 

jimf421
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I only accept cash. Buyer has to figure out how they want to send it to me.

herman OP
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@mitch2 

PP offers the option to use F&F and, while their instructions indicate suggestions of when/how it can be used, I do not remember reading any hard and fast rules about when it cannot be used.

"You must not send money as a personal transaction (often referred to as using the “Send Money to a Friend or Family Member” feature in your PayPal account) when you are paying for goods or services."

https://www.paypal.com/us/legalhub/paypal/useragreement-full?country.x=US&locale.x=en_US#sending-money

 

joelepo
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PAYPAL has ALWAYS been a SCAM. I am Emeritus university professor who used it once years ago for a professional purchase and got burned. Cancelled over and over and I STILL get emails from them, AND from all the places to which PAYPAL leaked my contact information!

Just use your CC or other direct payment mechanisms that you can monitor and trust. The extra layers of PAYPAL just allows them to skim off fees, AND they profit from marketing your financial and spending info!

herman OP
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PAYPAL has ALWAYS been a SCAM.

The extra layers of PAYPAL just allows them to skim off fees, AND they profit from marketing your financial and spending info!

DUH !! they are a for profit company that makes their money facilitating the transfer of funds. OF COURSE they charge fees .. they aren’t a charity.

You recommend the CC companies, but do you really think the CC companies aren’t selling your financial and spending info?  AND BTW.. they also charge fees.

Estimates are that PayPal processes around 40,000,000 transactions a day

26,000,000,000 in 2024

No doubt that out of billions of transactions some don’t go well. That does not make them a scam. No, I am not a PP fanboy or shill, I just recognize that they provide a valuable service and therefore deserve to be compensated for it, and that like any business doing a huge volume of anything, mistakes are inevitable.

Your appeal to authority with your university credentials does not in any way validate your claim that PP is a scam.

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