Eminent Technology LFT-8c Robert Greene review


A friend of mine forwarded this review to me a couple days ago.  I hadn't seen it as it's just a week old at this point. 

Why would I be interested? I have a pair of LFT-8b speakers that I picked up about 7 months ago.  Wonderful speakers. I always wanted to try a set of panels and, as luck would have it, last summer I found a used pair of 8b's just a short drive from my home..I made the jump.  As it turns out, this was one of the best moves I've made in my 50+ year audio hobby. 

In the last few months, I was considering picking up the 8b to 8c upgrade components, but put it off as I had a number of other projects going on.  Well..the projects got completed and I started a few more projects, though this time around the 8c upgrade is one of them.  I ordered the 8c upgrade yesterday and I'm really looking forward to the adventure once it arrives. 

One thing I've noticed when reading discussions of the LFT-8(no a, b, c)  here on A-gon, is the discussion wanders over the now 36 year history of the LFT-8.  Issues identified in this or that review from 10-20-25 years ago are brought up as if they reflect what the LFT-8 is today.  LFT-8's had a great sound 30 years ago, with a few flaws, as any 30 year old speaker would, and it sounds better today. Nothing surprising there. Most companies cut ties with models as they age and come out with something new, whether they are really new or repackaged parts..that varies.. 

What's my point?  I just find it interesting that Bruce Thigpen (Eminent Technology) came out with the LFT-8 in about 1990 and has been continually improving the model 8 year after year, decade in and decade out, staying in business with no advertising, though with a few shows here and there. There are very few current speakers(let alone businesses) alive today that have a 30+ year history under largely the same name. (Though the Vandy 2 series comes to mind)  Pretty unique in this industry.  It's also pretty unique that a decades old pair of LFT-8 speakers can be upgraded to the current model at a very modest cost. And the upgrade is easily done by any owner. 

So..the latest review:

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/eminent-technology-lft-8c-planar-loudspeaker/

Robert Greene goes into considerable depth in his review, which is specific to the 8c version, though he's done an 8b review in the past. I'm glad it came out as it pushed me over the edge in ordering the 8c upgrade.  I'm not getting any younger..time to give the 8c a spin. 

One last note, I've read in a number of older and current reviews that the LFT-8 speaker placement is..finicky.  I haven't found that to be the case at all.  In the last 7 months I've experimented extensively with placement and they respond well to various setups. My current setup is about 115 inches between the panels (on center) and maybe 30 degrees toe-ed  in from facing directly forward.  Each speaker is 45 inches off the front wall(on center) and 38 inches from the side walls.  I have a great soundstage and and equally great imaging.  My tweeter panels are on the inside. 

 

(...and no..I have no affiliation with ET..just a customer owning a used pair of the 2017 model 8b)

nogaps

@ozzy62

 I haven't had any issues with a fuzzy or unrealistic center image.  You can get a thin center image if you have the speakers far apart, have zero toe-in, and sit too close, but my less than ideal setups (in hindsight now), suggest if you get anywhere close to a decent setup..you'll have a solid center image.  

 

The preference @nogaps and I share for midrange drivers-in orientation of the LFT-8b may be a consequence of the similarity of the size and shape of our listening rooms. My room is 13’ deep and 14’ 4" wide, which yes sounds rather small for a pair of dipole planar loudspeakers. In spite of that the room is actually about the best sounding one I’ve ever had. It’s on the warm side (see below for why that may be the case), and very "quiet." Plus, when I enter it I become very relaxed, with the outside world seeming to evaporate (and I already live in a very quiet neighborhood. While in the house I rarely hear a sound from any neighbor, and there are plenty of kids in those houses).

I have my LFT-8b’s 5’ away from the wall behind them, each 32" (measured from the outside edge) from their respective side wall, 8’ apart, and 8’ from my listening position. On the left wall, part of the 32" is taken up by 16" deep LP racks (11’ 6" long), on the right the space occupied by 6" deep CD racks (8’ 4" long, the end of the wall closest to the listening position being where the door into the room is located). Both rows of racks are floor-to-ceiling in height.

The two corners behind the LFT’s are each filled with an 11" ASC Tube Trap sitting atop a 16". Next to each stack are two other 11" Traps, on top of which sit two (stacked vertically) Vicoustic DC3 Diffusers (each just shy of 24" square, about 6" deep). In front of each of those two traps is another DC3 Diffuser. The rear wave of each LFT-8 reflects off the LP’s or CD’s on the side walls, that reflection being re-directed to the Tube Traps (with their reflective sides "out") and the Diffusers. The Traps and Diffusers then do their job, scattering the rear waves and sending them back into the room.

On the listening position wall end of the room I placed a 4’ square, 6" deep frame I built and filled with 703 fiberglass (a box of six 2" thick 24" x 48" sheets)---the 703-filled frame then wrapped in grill cloth, the absorber placed atop a row of six 9" Tube Traps, right behind my listening chair  The rest of the rear wall is taken up by two doors, one leading to the bathroom, the other to the walk-in closet. Those two little rooms provide some escape for the bass pressure that builds up in the 13’ x 14’ 4" listening room.

Any questions? laugh

 

Finally got these dialed in and I must say I’m glad I was patient. Here is where they landed.

77” to the wall behind them as measured from the back of the woofer enclosure and 104” between them (center to center). A slight toe in, firing just over my shoulder. From Bruce’s recommendation I cut 125 hz by 6 db and set the Q to 1.5. 
 

All this leads me to say I now see what all the fuss is about.

Well..like..Yay!  :)

Nice to hear you’ve sorted them out. There are few speakers out there that have more adjustability than the 8c’s.  Remember, you have three levels of the tweeter also on the rear-top of the box.  I have to say, I’ve done more than a ton of research on the LFTs before & since I picked them up last summer, and your observations about bass and centerstage were outliers to what I’ve read.  There had to be a setup that was clicked into place.

Great news!