USB cable recommendation


I have an Aurender N150 and a Garlubidor Divinity DAC. I'm trying to figure out if my Transparent USB cable is limiting my hardware. I asked AI to make a suggestion, and they recommended a Shunyata Theta, Audioquest Diamond and Audioquest Carbon. Now I guess I'm looking for a human's suggestion.

dpm2340

@soix ASR measures output voltage of a dac and claims that no matter what cable you use it will all sound the same because the voltage coming out of a $99 reference chinese dac (that sounds just as good as any high end dac and even better because it measures so good) is the same with every cable, and the crowd goes hail amir, these minions with $99 dacs and amazon basics usb cables come here to tell you what you are able and unable to hear. 

And tell you hey my system is not a subject of this conversation and it doesn’t matter…but yes it does matter and has direct influence on the statements they make. 
 

So if you are running a $99 reference dac and feed it via amazon basics usb, congratulations…you bought a business class ticket on Amir’s magic carpet. Enjoy your flight. 

The WW Platinum is a highly recommended USB cable and I had one for a few years. But for a little more money,  you can buy an Audio Sensibility Signature Silver USB that is considerably better sounding. 

soix

I’m not dismissing anyone’s experience, and I’m certainly not claiming that my view is the only one that matters. What I am saying is that claims about USB cables affecting tone, detail, or presentation need more than subjective impressions to be accepted as universal truths.  
My position isn’t based on “theory” it’s based on how USB transmission actually works: packet‑based data, error correction, retries, and the DAC’s own internal clocking. A properly shielded, properly constructed USB cable that meets spec will deliver bit‑perfect data. Any audible differences would need to be demonstrated through measurements or controlled listening tests.  
I fully accept that people hear differences in their own systems. But subjective impressions, especially in sighted conditions, are influenced by expectation, memory limitations, and system variables. That’s why blind testing and measurements exist — not to invalidate anyone’s experience, but to separate what’s reliably repeatable from what’s personal.  
I’m not telling anyone not to try cables. I’m simply encouraging people to pause before spending hundreds or thousands on products whose claimed benefits aren’t supported by published data, blind tests, or engineering principles.  
My intention here is to promote informed decision‑making, not to dismiss anyone’s enjoyment. If someone tries a cable and loves it, that’s great. But people should also know that the engineering behind USB audio doesn’t support many of the marketing claims being made.  
I hope you will at least accept this premise.

@audphile1 

 

You’ve made it clear you’re not interested in dialogue, only in asserting that your hearing and your system are the final authority. That’s fine, but it’s not an argument.  

You’ve dismissed measurements, dismissed blind testing, dismissed engineering, dismissed peer‑reviewed evidence, and dismissed anyone who doesn’t hear what you claim to hear. That leaves only one variable: your personal impressions.  

Personal impressions are valid for the person experiencing them, but they’re not transferable, not verifiable, and not evidence of universal truth.  

You’ve asked me to “prove” that expensive USB cables don’t change tone, detail, or presentation. But that’s not how evidence works. The burden of proof lies with the party making the extraordinary claim, in this case, that a digital packet interface can impart “naturalness”, “analytical presentation”, or “more detail”.  

If those claims are true, they should be demonstrable through measurements, blind testing, or published data. If they can’t be demonstrated, then they remain personal impressions, not universal facts.  

I’m not here to convert you. I’m here to point out that engineering, digital protocol design, and controlled testing all align on one side of this discussion and personal belief sits on the other.  
I’ll leave it there. Enjoy your system

@audphile1

You’ve offered a lot of opinions about ASR, Amir, “minions”, and the price of other people’s DACs, but none of that actually addresses the technical question at hand.  

If a USB cable truly changes tone, detail, or presentation, then those changes must originate at the DAC output. That’s the only place they can become audible. And if the DAC output changes, it can be measured. If it can’t be measured, then the claim remains subjective,.  

Dismissing measurements, dismissing blind testing, and dismissing engineering doesn’t strengthen your argument — it just removes the tools that would allow your claims to be verified.  

I’m not basing my view on the price of anyone’s equipment. I’m basing it on how USB audio transmission actually works: packet‑based data, error correction, retries, and the DAC’s own internal clocking. If you have evidence that contradicts that, you know, measurements, controlled tests, or published data, I’m genuinely open to reading it.  

But personal impressions, especially in sighted conditions, aren’t a substitute for evidence. Confidence in what we hear is not the same as proof of what is happening.  

When you have something more concrete than insults toward ASR or assumptions about other people’s systems, I’ll be glad to continue the dialogue but something tells me that discussion is not what you want.