Expanding the Class D Conversation: How Would You Characterize Their Differences?


Expanding the Class D Conversation: How Would You Characterize Their Differences?

I'm currently trialing the NAD M23 (1st gen. Eigentakt-based), and I find it intriguing enough to want to understand it better — which means understanding the broader sonic landscape of class D. So I'm crowd-sourcing.

In a recent exchange, the estimable Ralph Karsten (Atma-Sphere Music Systems) made two comments that stopped me cold. For those who missed it, here's what he said:

"IME, class D amps vary in sound more than tube amps, which is to say, quite a lot."

"IMO there is a bigger difference between various class D amps than you hear between various tube amps. IOW just because you heard one class D amp says nothing about how the next one might sound."

Link: https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2885828

As I think through this more carefully, these are genuinely important claims. My own experience with tube amps confirms that they produce audibly distinct characters across topologies and designs. If Ralph is right and class D exceeds that range, then generalizing from one class D experience to another is even more hazardous than I assumed.

One specific question for Audiogon members:

If you have a Class D amp or have compared class D amplifiers, how would you describe their character(s)?

Here are some criteria I use:

  1. Frequency balance — Is the tonal response even across bass, mids, and treble, or does it favor certain regions?
  2. High-frequency texture — Are the highs extended and smooth, or edgy, grainy, and fatiguing?
  3. Bass definition — Is the low end tight and articulate, or loose and bloated?
  4. Midrange character — Does the midrange feel present and natural, or recessed and thin?
  5. Transient speed — Does the amp respond quickly to dynamic attacks, or does it sound sluggish and rounded?
  6. Dynamic range — Does it scale convincingly from quiet passages to loud ones, or compress the difference?
  7. Soundstage width and depth — Does it create a convincing three-dimensional image, or sound flat and narrow?
  8. Image specificity — Are instruments and voices placed precisely, or do they blur and wander?
  9. Background noise floor — Is the silence between notes actually silent, or is there grain, haze, or hash?
  10. Long-term listenability — After an extended session, do you want to keep listening, or has something been quietly fatiguing you?

If you can include relevant system context — room, speakers, preamp — please do. Those variables will help me interpret what the amp itself is contributing.

I'm less interested in rankings than in understanding what Ralph mentioned, namely the [vast] range of sonic signatures class D is capable of. Eigentakt, Hypex, Pascal, Purifi, GaN-based, etc. — all fair game.

Price is no constraint here — I'm interested in the full range of what's out there.

hilde45

provide a profile of an ideal speaker to match up with his Class D monos. What would an ideal speaker profile spec [or range] look like?

@decooney That depends on the class D. Amps of the non self-oscillating variety probably should not be connected to ESLs since they might go into oscillation due to an interaction with the filter choke at the output of the amp. Self-oscillating amps like ours, Orchard, Hypex or Purifi do not have this problem. 

I don’t really care what the amp is; all amps have less distortion when driving an easier load and yes, you can hear that difference in distortion (smoother and more detailed with less distortion...). Speakers of lower efficiency often have thermal compression problems that are less or non-existent with more efficient speakers (ESLs being an exception since they don’t have a voice coil).

So I’m of the opinion, based on experience, that if you want the best out of your amplifier investment, that you should avoid lower impedance and lower efficiency speakers on general terms. 

You don’t lose any resolution with higher efficiency. You just get a more dynamic presentation. 

Like most other solid state amps our class D is fine with 4 Ohm speakers. But also with any 4 Ohm speaker, your speaker cables will be more critical and it will be a good idea to keep them short! This is the reason we made monoblocks and have a balanced connection, so you can minimize speaker and interconnect cable interaction with the sound of the system.  

Finally, people ask us all the time if we will make a more powerful amp. We just might, but I’d like to point out a simple math issue. If you can’t make your speaker fly with 100 Watts, you won’t do it with 200 Watts either. You’re going to need an amp that makes 10X more power (1000 Watts if 8 Ohms, 2000 Watts if 4 Ohms) because you need a 10dB increase in power for the presentation to sound twice as loud. IMO such speakers are impractical.

To understand this better, a 3dB increase in volume requires double the power. That increase is barely noticeable to the ear. 6dB is more easily noticed and requires a 4x increase in power.  For the most part, the bigger you make an amp the harder it is to make it sound like real music. 

So you do yourself a big favor by working with speakers that are easier to drive.

The problem with more efficient  speakers is they tend to also be bigger and heavier ie not practical for most. 
 

Some like Fritz are designed to be easier to drive yet not necessarily efficient. 

I’ve found good quality Class D amps help me out a lot by being very efficient at driving a broader variety of speakers well.

 

@markmuse wrote:

Ralph has always been straight with us.

Absolutely, and I always enjoy his contributions even in those times when we don’t share the same point of view.

My comment wasn’t directed at him, but rather at the speakers-my amps-can’t-drive-shouldn’t-exist crowd.

I firmly believe that if there is a single hifi component that should be chosen strictly on the basis of their end sound, it is the speakers. And if it just so happens that your choice likes to wallow in one-ohm territory, the correct response is to buy amps that are comfortable driving one-ohm loads.

Hope this clarifies things a bit 😃