Phono Stage


I am getting near the end of my current system journey.  I have my digital (streaming) side set (for now). It sounds glorious to my old hearing aid assisted ears. And streaming is where I spend the vast majority of my listening. 
Regardless, I am now focusing on vinyl, with the recent addition of a P8. 
My analog side: Rega P8 w/ Hana ML > Rega Aria > Kimber KS1018 > BHK pre > Zavfino Fusion mk2 > Moon 330A > Transparent + > KEF Ref 3’s. If do a weak link analysis both chatGPT & Gemini say it  my phono stage.

So looking for potential replacements. As always I am very space constrained, (half wides are perfect) no tubes and looking to stay under $3,000 used. I like accuracy, clarity & cleanliness. 
My current candidates: 
Rega AOS

Gold Note PH10

Sutherland 20/20 w/LPS

Sutherland Little Loco

The Sutherland’s work because they are thin and con fit under my raised center channel speaker. The duo stack is too high  

Please let me know your thoughts and/or recommendations. Thanks!

 

signaforce

@audphile1 

There are a ton of phono preamps that offer 70db and above. Project, Moon, Chord, Musical Fidelity, Dynavector, Elac. Sutherland, Clearaudio...all of them have offerings over 70db of gain. Trending up over the past few years..gain is all the rage..

@smodking1 DS Audio makes only optical cartridges and their phono equalizers only support optical cartridges. Extremely cool tech, great sound. 
 

@goodlistening64 yep I’m current on phono stages. My Whest has up to 70db gain. Sutherland 20/20 Mk2 I had maxed out at 64db. Important to check loading and gain with a phono stage you buy to make sure it works with your cartridge. 
 

@signaforce I’m glad to report the Umami Blue has been improving steadily. Now at about 8-10hr of play it is filling in nicely. Stressful for the first 5hrs for sure. :)

A different path you can pursue, of course, is to go with an MM phono stage, and add a step-up transformer for LOMC; that gives you many more high gain options.  And interesting product is the Lejonklou Slipsik 8, at $1800 new, which leaves you $1200 for a SUT.

I'm by no means a vinyl expert, but I get good results from my Sutherland TZ Vibe and Hana ML cartridge.  It's a small unit.  Only works with low output moving coil.

@audphile1 I would have to really change my listening habits to get a new cart burned in. Yikes. @mdalton thanks! @sls883 Thanks!