Looking for New AV Processor


Hi All,

I posted back in 2023, got some good advice, but never pulled the trigger on anything as I spent too much coin on camera gear! So I’m back, asking the same question as the options may have changed a little since 2023!

So let’s start with my current setup:

B&W CM10’s front left and right
B&W Center 2 front
B&W 685’s rear left and right
B&W PV1 sub
Yamaha CX-A5000 AV Processor

Monolith 7X Amp
Panasonic DP-UB820 Blu-ray Player
Sony 65” X900H TV

At the time the Yamaha CX-A5000 was a budget pick based on financials as I was moving from a Pioneer SC-27 receiver to an amp + processor setup, so I feel the processor is now the weakest link in my system, thus considering an upgrade and would to hear some expert advice. My budget is ~$2k - $2.5k and I’m going to buy 2nd hand.

Regarding video, my current processor isn’t HDR capable so I’m looking for at least 4K HDR10 capabilities in regards to video content, but ideally 4K HDR 10+ & Dolby Vision capable. With regards to music, most of my listening 24bit HD music. If there’s one characteristic of the sound I’d like to improve with this upgrade is that currently my setup can become a bit bright / harsh when watching movies (Blu-ray source mostly) and I’d like a bit more ooomph in terms of bass.

Looking at previous recommendations and searching ebay, the following are my current picks:

1) Marantz AV8805A

2) Anthem AVM70

3) Rotel RSP-1582

The Rotel is now a bit outdated and gets mixed reviews overall, especially regarding durability, but they always had the reputation of being a good pairing with B&W speakers? But both Marantz and Anthem get rave reviews so I think it’s between these two really? Advice welcomed as always.

 

Kev Doc

kdochert

My current Sub is located front middle (mostly due to having four cats) and I’ve added a little gain, but adding a second sub is a good idea, the SV1 is quite musical and nimble but is maybe lacking oomph and maybe needs a big brother.

That’s almost never the best location in room for optimal subwoofer performance.  Your sub goes down to 21Hz -3dB, and I suspect you may not be getting all it’s capable of so before adding another sub I’d work on better placement (if at all possible) and optimizing the sub’s settings as well if you haven’t already done that.  If you have placement flexibility I’d use the crawl method to find the spots in your room where you’ll get the best bass in your particular room, and here’s a link for how to do that…

https://www.audioholics.com/home-theater-connection/crawling-for-bass-subwoofer-placement

Once you find the right placement here are some straightforward and effective instructions on how to optimize sub settings in case you haven’t already done something like this (these  are from Paradigm who makes pretty good subs)…

Set the pre/pro tone controls, equalizer to FLAT and turn off any LOUDNESS adjustment. Grab a friend or wife...but not a friends wife....

1. Turn the Subwoofer Level control completely counterclockwise to its minimum; 2. Turn the Subwoofer crossover frequency control clockwise to its highest frequency (i.e. 150 Hz). 3. Set the Phase Alignment Control to 0°; 4. While you listen to a bass music or video selection in your primary listening area, have an assistant turn up the Subwoofer Level control until the subwoofer can be clearly heard; 5. Have an assistant try the Phase Alignment control until you hear the most bass. Your subwoofer and front speakers are now in phase. Do not change phase alignment again unless you move the subwoofer or the front speakers to a different location in the room or move or remove large items of furniture or room furnishings (i.e. carpet, draperies, etc.) 6. Turn the Subwoofer level contol completely counterclockwise to its minimum. 7. Turn the Subwoofer crossover completely counter-clockwise to its lowest frequency (i.e. 50 Hz); 8. Slowly rotate the Subwoofer Level control until you match the subwoofer output level with the level of your front speakers. Bass should be clearly audible, but not intrusive; 9. Slowly rotate the Subwoofer crossover control until you hear the best subwoofer/main speaker blend. If the sound is too ‘thin,’ you have not set the frequency high enough; if the sound becomes ‘boomy’ you have set the frequency too high. Adjust until you find the most natural balance.  The sub should not draw attention to itself.

 

Your interconnects/cables seem ok, and I wouldn’t bother with bi-amping.  Hope this helps. 

@ bjp9738

Regarding the Marantz Audyssey room correction, my understanding is the 8805A has MultEQ version which I've read is a big improvement. Is this still significantly inferior to Anthem's ARC?

So far I haven't been impressed with room correction systems, but that's perhaps because I haven't used a good one yet, just Pioneer and Yamaha's versions?

@SOIX

Thanks for all the tips!

Once I get a new processor I'll spend some more time setting up the Sub. So far I've just used B&W recommendations on crossover etc. There's one more location that might work, and it would be in front of a stone / brick fireplace rather than a plasterboard wall. Yeah the acoustics in my living room are baaad.

I realize that you are asking about a processor and not a receiver.  I spent a good bit of time researching before choosing, and I got a Marantz Cinema 30.  I am super pleased with it.  I looked at the Marantz AV 20, that was nearly the choice, but I opted for simplicity over flexibility and 'quality'.   I am very pleased with the Cinema 30.  

Another factor in the choice...   If this were a 'simple' analog pre-amp, amp, phono pre, etc, where the lifespan could be expected to be 10-20 years, maybe more, then moving up the food chain might make more sense.  But there is the advantage of staying in the mortal zone when buying a piece where the technology is constantly changing, and fast.  Any AV processor that is new, now, will likely be obsolete, or dead in 10 years or a little more, and not worth repairing at that time, also.    

My vote would be Cinema 30, or AV 30, or AV 20.   I have the main outs from the Cinema 30  routed through the HT bypass on a ModWright LS99 / KWA99 setup.