Looking for New AV Processor


Hi All,

I posted back in 2023, got some good advice, but never pulled the trigger on anything as I spent too much coin on camera gear! So I’m back, asking the same question as the options may have changed a little since 2023!

So let’s start with my current setup:

B&W CM10’s front left and right
B&W Center 2 front
B&W 685’s rear left and right
B&W PV1 sub
Yamaha CX-A5000 AV Processor

Monolith 7X Amp
Panasonic DP-UB820 Blu-ray Player
Sony 65” X900H TV

At the time the Yamaha CX-A5000 was a budget pick based on financials as I was moving from a Pioneer SC-27 receiver to an amp + processor setup, so I feel the processor is now the weakest link in my system, thus considering an upgrade and would to hear some expert advice. My budget is ~$2k - $2.5k and I’m going to buy 2nd hand.

Regarding video, my current processor isn’t HDR capable so I’m looking for at least 4K HDR10 capabilities in regards to video content, but ideally 4K HDR 10+ & Dolby Vision capable. With regards to music, most of my listening 24bit HD music. If there’s one characteristic of the sound I’d like to improve with this upgrade is that currently my setup can become a bit bright / harsh when watching movies (Blu-ray source mostly) and I’d like a bit more ooomph in terms of bass.

Looking at previous recommendations and searching ebay, the following are my current picks:

1) Marantz AV8805A

2) Anthem AVM70

3) Rotel RSP-1582

The Rotel is now a bit outdated and gets mixed reviews overall, especially regarding durability, but they always had the reputation of being a good pairing with B&W speakers? But both Marantz and Anthem get rave reviews so I think it’s between these two really? Advice welcomed as always.

 

Kev Doc

kdochert

@SOIX

Good question on cables. Speaker cables are Audioquest, but I can't for the life of me remember the exact name / spec, they are bi-amping capable with 8 wires per cable. The interconnects are XLR Morrow MA3's for the front and MA2's for the surround channels. I'm not currently bi-amping, should I? Previous advice suggested no.

My current Sub is located front middle (mostly due to having four cats) and I've added a little gain, but adding a second sub is a good idea, the SV1 is quite musical and nimble but is maybe lacking oomph and maybe needs a big brother.

If you were looking at one of the Marantz Cinema units that supports Dirac, it'd be a no brainer.  I went from an Anthem MRX1140 to a Marantz AV 20 with the full Dirac suite including ART and there's no comparison. Night and day better than Anthem with ARC Genesis.  However, $$$.  Dirac is an add-on that's not cheap.  So if we're comparing Marantz with Audyssey and Anthem with ARC Genesis, I'd go with Anthem. IME, I think ARC Genesis does a better job than Audyssey.

I use a Technics AH-SH500D Here’s a Link on ebay there are a bunch. Get one with a remote. Cheap and works and sounds very well Does Dolby/ and Stereo and DTS, Look for the specs on the web..Here’s eBay.

 

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=tecnics+AH-SH500d&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p4624852.m570.l1313

 

+1 Marantz

Or,

While you have the system somewhat torn apart and since you didn't mention the size of your room, demo a quality 2 channel integrated amp with sub out.  5.1 speakers are a big challenge to setup and integrate properly, even today.  I ditched surround years ago and have been 2 channel since for my main AV room.  I like my Atoll IN 200 evo with optional DA100 DAC board with my ProAc studio 148s.  You might surprised what you get with a quality integrated amp with your two main speakers setup well.  The Atoll is one of the few integrated amps made today that have a tape loop.  I use it for equalizing some difficult / harsh AV tracks with a Cardas Iridium cable in the defeatable loop.

@crnkit - Not that I have a need to be validated, but if you are asking if I'd talked to them, yes, and they pretty much agreed that it has these issues.

First, a little terminology.  Dolby Surround specifically means 2 to 4 channel matrix decoding/encoding.  It is the brand used in motion picture auditoriums, and was for a while also called Dolby Pro-Logic in homes.  Not sure if the PL label still applies. 

I've also had help from those with better tools than I at DIYaudio.  Every processor I've had in the past let me enable Dolby Surround regardless of the stream's encoding.  So long as it was at least a 2 channel source, I could enable the DS part. 

Anthem DOES NOT. 

All Netflix 2 channel streams are tagged Dolby Digital 2.0 and for whatever reason marked as non-DS.  

Here's the thing.  Anthem still shows "Dolby Surround" on the screen, but the center and surround are not working.  One weird way to test this is with Anime that you can compare to Crunchyroll.  CR's streams are PCM however, not DD 2.0 and as such Anthem DOES use the DS decoding.  

Depending on how you look at it, either Anthem is being very strict about adhering to the rules, and then the bug is that it displays Dolby Surround when it should not, or it's a bug that it's not enabling DS even when you've told it to, AND saying it did. 

Also, and this is a nit, this is an electrically noisy receiver.  I think even with it "off" it still has enough noise in the outputs to keep my external amps from sleeping.  I had to adjust the amp sensitivity considerably.