DDC Sound Improvements???


I'm trying to put off buying a new streaming transport.  Of the Hifi Rose RS130, Innuos Stream 3, and Matrix NT-1; the NT-1 was clearly the winner to my ears with a greater sense of clarity/transparency, sound stage width and depth, and neutrality that it presented.

I currently have a moded BS Node with LPS that has been hard to beat thus far.  Will the new Gustard U26 DDC truly improve sound quality with the blacker backgrounds and sound stage dimensions.  The DDC would also allow me to use i2S.

$1,000 for a DDC vs $4,000 for a transport is pretty tempting.  In my head this additional filtering in the DDC would give me the sonic improvements of a great streaming transport.

What are your thoughts and experience?  

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@drmuso I agree that adding the LPS was a small incremental improvement.  It was audible but not significant.  The real improvements came ***in my system***, when I upgraded the ethernet cable, network switch and fiber cable, then the DDC for addiitonal filtering (check out the power supply in the U26).  But that was after sorting out the XLR and speaker cables.  Remove jumpers and running bi-wires really opened up the tweeters.

I think the entire system has to be reviewed not just singular components.  What works with my system setup may not bring the same improvements in your system for various reasons.

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I went from the N130 + Teddy Pardo to an Innuos ZENith Mk3.  There was certainly no obvious global improvement.

The Nano with LPS sounds clean, open, and transparent. Based on all the testimonials provided here, I believe others are hearing something similar. However, the instrument separation is less apparent, and the depth of the soundstage is also reduced compared with my Rivo+. The width of the soundstage is narrower as well. This is consistent with Tarun’s observations.

Therefore, to say that switching to the Innuos Zenith Mk3 (with triple LPS inside the unit) does not provide ’global’ improvement is likely an oversight of its soundstage performance.  Tarun also commented that the ICON has much better separation and soundstage depth, and Hans rated it as a low 1B (Zenith 3 as 1B). It might be worth trying.

    

yes i also compared the modded node with lps to a rivo plus/lineo at length... i would concur that in a highly resolving system one can hear the rivo plus images larger/wider, though overall tonality is very similar (very balanced presentation, unlike others such as the uptilted eversolos, and downtilted lumins)... not that the node is poor in its soundstage, but the volumio is better ... we must remember we are now comparing a ~$500 front end to one that is 3-4x more costly

this plus the fact the the volumio interface can be buggy and somewhat cumbersome, compared to the smooth as silk user experience of good ol blu-os... so one chooses their basket of preferred attributes

in the realm of ultra affordable excellent sounding digital front ends, we cannot overlook the ifi Zen stream (with lps, using wired connection) or an auralic aries or aries mini ... yes the company is gone but the lightning os app is open source, stable, and the sonic quality is just superb

as a general observation, we are in a very fortunate time where there are more excellent sounding, smooth functioning, highly cost effective streamers than ever... a real boon to the community is this respect

we are in a very fortunate time where there are more excellent sounding, smooth functioning, highly cost effective streamers than ever

Agreed, and I believe more cost-effective streamers are on the way.

The Node ICON is on its way. I will audition it with its built-in power supply first, then order the panel adapter ($75) to connect it to my Lhy LPS25VA for comparison. I’m hopeful—it may end up staying in my second rig if it renders the soundstage to my satisfaction.

Volumio has become much more stable. I haven’t encountered any service interruptions for quite some time, although the software hasn’t been updated and is still not on par with other apps. I’ve learned to work around it, as its sound quality outweighs the inconvenience. Others who don’t care about the sound quality difference Qobuz Connect and its native app can simply use the former without any complaints.