ROON is and always has been the worst example of customer support that exist for a product you pay for. THE WORST
Innuos Sense
Replacing Roon - What Should I get?
I'm tired of Roon having brain farts. I have an original Roon Nucleus and have updated and augmented the Memory. This helped for a bit. But now, I keep having to reboot the darn thing.
It's not my network. I have checked it out and everything in the house works fine.
Here is the setup. A direct fiber optic link goes to the Router. Then ethernet to Roon from the Router. This way I get Roon to talk with the setup upstairs. I have an 35 foot ethernet cable that runs through the walls directly from the router into my dCS Lina.
I want to replace the Roon. I am thinking about an Innuos Stream. Just need a streamer that can hold Roon/Tidal. Don't need a DAC as the dCS does that quite well. I have a SSD in the Nucleus that holds a ton of my music that I want to move over.
Thoughts on what to replace the Roon with? Innuos (Stream) always get bandied about. I hear about Arender as well. I don't want to get an updated Roon.
I also wonder about deleting and reinstalling the Roon App on my iPads.
Thanks in Advance
@audphile1 – Thank you for the kind words about the UI and glad to hear the dropouts stopped after shutting down Roon core. That's actually a great example of why having only one control point active matters. On your feature points: You're right that there's always a balance between features and sound quality. Our priority has always been sound quality first, but we're actively developing the app and feature requests like yours help us prioritise what to work on next. @shinemaster – Thank you for the suggestion about search placement. Noted! @dwmb – I need to correct a misconception here. JPLAY does NOT stream audio through your iPhone or iPad. The app acts purely as a remote control – it sends a command and the track URL to your streamer, and the streamer itself fetches the audio directly from Tidal/Qobuz servers. Your iPhone/iPad never touches the audio data. Unless Proxy feature is enabled in the app - in some setups this is required and then the app first downloads a track to iPhone/iPad and only then streams to an endpoint. But this option is disabled by default. If you experienced dropouts with streaming services, it was your streamer having trouble fetching content from the network – not JPLAY sending audio over Wi-Fi. The cause is typically network configuration, router settings, or the streamer's own UPnP renderer implementation. Many users stream Tidal and Qobuz flawlessly through JPLAY every day. If you'd like to give it another try, I'm happy to help troubleshoot – feel free to reach out at [email protected]
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@marcin_gps haha you guys hid that feature pretty well. I enabled it now and will evaluate it. Thanks for getting back to me on this and other items I had mentioned. |
Like any of this it all depends on the components and config. I can run QC directly on my Denon Av unit. QC comes nowhere close to the SQ I get running ROON into a old SONOS W4S modified ZP90 into external DAC into Denon. Not really fair comp as it's a decent DAC but when somebody says "QC sounds better..." you need to know what running under the hood, right down to the ROON host. |
@marcin_gps Unless Proxy is enabled with JPlay, I cannot stream Tidal. But then, if Proxy is enabled, the stream goes through your iPhone or iPad to the local network. That results in dropouts and other streaming issues. I dealt with this on your Forums in June 2025. With JPlay, I'm simply caught between a rock and a hard place when trying to stream from Tidal using JPlay, even though my streamer is JPlay certified. So, no joy. |