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Replacing Roon - What Should I get?

I'm tired of Roon having brain farts.  I have an original Roon Nucleus and have updated and augmented the Memory.  This helped for a bit.  But now, I keep having to reboot the darn thing.

It's not my network.  I have checked it out and everything in the house works fine.

Here is the setup.  A direct fiber optic link goes to the Router.  Then ethernet to Roon from the Router.  This way I get Roon to talk with the setup upstairs.  I have an 35 foot ethernet cable that runs through the walls directly from the router into my dCS Lina.

I want to replace the Roon.  I am thinking about an Innuos Stream.  Just need a streamer that can hold Roon/Tidal.  Don't need a DAC as the dCS does that quite well.  I have a SSD in the Nucleus that holds a ton of my music that I want to move over.

Thoughts on what to replace the Roon with?  Innuos (Stream) always get bandied about.  I hear about Arender as well. I don't want to get an updated Roon.

I also wonder about deleting and reinstalling the Roon App on my iPads.

Thanks in Advance

pgaulke60
erik_squires
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While throttling itself is a safety feature and not inherently damaging

This is true but that's not always what happens.  Thermal throttling is meant to prevent damage and minimize errors. 

Thermal throttling is not a feature every CPU has, it's a rather modern thing to find it on PC's and laptops.  In fact many CPUs have no way to self-regulate at all. They simply work until they fail.  Sometimes that's temporary, as I've experienced many times with routers, and sometimes it's permanent, and sometimes it's a matter of this particular CPU has a lower thermal failure threshold than others.  

audiopacer
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@marcin_gps 

thank you for the information. I know on my iPhone 17 pro that I have Mconnect open, Roon remote, and JPlay open meaning that I have used them to select and play a song. It’s possible that a background process is still running on each of these apps stepping over the foreground process. 

it’s also possible this scheme is confounded by iPad with the same three apps open. 
 

woodhart
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I originally ran my Roon core on a mac mini (2011 model if memory serves) and had lots of issues with it. The Roon core has historically had resource leak issues, performance would always start to drag after it had been running for a while. I eventually moved my core to a linux machine and set a cron job to restart the service once a week. That generally keeps things running smoothly for me.

As a side note, I did a lot of reverse engineering of the Roon core code as I was working on some Roon extensions. Resource leaks are still an issue in the code, I'm amazed at how bad some of the code is.

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audphile1
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Resource leaks are still an issue in the code, I’m amazed at how bad some of the code is
 

Exactly what I suspected. Cheap inexperienced offshore workforce probably using github copilot to generate code. Buckle up…it will get a lot worse 

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audphile1
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@marcin_gps 

Congrats on this very nice app! UI is very good and intuitive to use. I will take your suggestion and try running jplay with Roon core completely off to see if it eliminates streaming stops. Again, sound quality is excellent. 
 

One more interesting issue I have noticed - when I was streaming Patricia Barber “Clique” album from Tidal the highest resolution version that was made available to me was the redbook 16/44. Jplay does not see the MQA version of this album. My DAC is capable of unfolding MQA and it happens to sound really nice playing MQA albums. Is there a setting I’ve missed somewhere?

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