Actually most of it comes from the output section
Interesting. I’ll have to look into this. Now to think of it, I recall Hegal has a unique feedback loop to clean and darken the sound.
Expanding the Class D Conversation: How Would You Characterize Their Differences?
Expanding the Class D Conversation: How Would You Characterize Their Differences?
I'm currently trialing the NAD M23 (1st gen. Eigentakt-based), and I find it intriguing enough to want to understand it better — which means understanding the broader sonic landscape of class D. So I'm crowd-sourcing.
In a recent exchange, the estimable Ralph Karsten (Atma-Sphere Music Systems) made two comments that stopped me cold. For those who missed it, here's what he said:
"IME, class D amps vary in sound more than tube amps, which is to say, quite a lot."
"IMO there is a bigger difference between various class D amps than you hear between various tube amps. IOW just because you heard one class D amp says nothing about how the next one might sound."
Link: https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2885828
As I think through this more carefully, these are genuinely important claims. My own experience with tube amps confirms that they produce audibly distinct characters across topologies and designs. If Ralph is right and class D exceeds that range, then generalizing from one class D experience to another is even more hazardous than I assumed.
One specific question for Audiogon members:
If you have a Class D amp or have compared class D amplifiers, how would you describe their character(s)?
Here are some criteria I use:
If you can include relevant system context — room, speakers, preamp — please do. Those variables will help me interpret what the amp itself is contributing.
I'm less interested in rankings than in understanding what Ralph mentioned, namely the [vast] range of sonic signatures class D is capable of. Eigentakt, Hypex, Pascal, Purifi, GaN-based, etc. — all fair game.
Price is no constraint here — I'm interested in the full range of what's out there.
@bartsw Nice to see you! As for your statement "I don’t think there’s really a ’class D’ sound," that's exactly the point I took @atmasphere to be saying in his comment about the great variety of sonic expression out there among class d design.
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Yeah, I was sure there wasn’t really a class D sound going back to the early days with ICE and Pioneer receivers. Pioneer tuned the ICE modules to their warm house sound. Nowadays, the brands, designs and price points have expanded.
For me, I need class D + at last 400W 8ohms for full range + solid state tube like. That combination is hard to find that doesn’t cost an arm and leg as my money was on the speakers first. If I can’t find all that in an amp, then DAC and preamps are other options, which is likely the route but not as pristine sounding. |
@rhale64 I do get the buffer with the Sparkos opamp. Never heard Class d before and won’t have another opamp to compare it to. Will it be possible for me to listen to what Leo had in it originally and then use the Sparkos? Not sure how it works. |