McIntoish C8 or PrimaLuna EVO 300


Both of the McIntoish C8 and PrimaLuna EVO 300 preamps seem to check the boxes in terms of inputs, outputs and features, and I can lift them.  Does anyone have experience of either or both of these preamps?

I think my system is in need of a bit of warmth, I have noticed recently that the very highest violin notes are a bit aggressive - in the recent past I've been listening to mainly choral works and had not noticed this.

I was playing the Hilary Hahn sonatas and partitas, (I have the disks and digital) and noticed the problem.  I dug up my 40 year old (!) C-J PV6 and the sound was sweet to the top, but that pre-amp  lost the air and space of the choral recordings; everything was warm and cuddly but the sense of the recording space was lost.

My interconnects are Cardas Clear Reflection and I have the issue on both analog and digital - and with SS or tubed Power amps.

My current preamp is the Benchmark LA4 which is, perhaps, a bit on the analytical side of neutral.

Changing from my Rockport Atria II speakers is NOT an option. 

So, I am looking for warmth but not losing the sense of the space, Am I asking too much in the $5k price bracket?

 

retiredaudioguy

Mcintosh has been around alot longer than prima luna.just saw a primaluna cd could not be fixed. mcintosh has service centers all over and still has most parts.the resale on mcintosh is very high it retains its value.the stuff i bought 4 years ago now used > 30 increase in used price. I have a primaluna cd i got from upscale audio it was a 220 volt had to get a transformer to do 110 to 220.sounds great but doubt I'll be able to get it fixed when it goes down. Enjoy the music.

 

@retiredaudioguy 

Did you make a typo or am I missing something?  You first wrote:

"I dug up my 40 year old (!) C-J PV6"

But then you said:

 

"Never restored. I bought it in about 1955 from Stereo Exchange."

 

Did you mean 1985, or has C-J made that unit that long?  I’m not familiar with Conrad-Johnson’s complete history.  Thanks!

 

C8 or CJ.   I would not spend that kind of money on Prima Luna.  It's basically Upscale's "house" brand.   I don't think they support the brand like they should.  

@allenf1963 according to Google

  • Production Era: The PV-6 was available and in use around 1984–1985."

I have not heard either of your choices, a few thoughts:

12ax, 12au

I truly like the sound and full features of my Vintage McIntosh mx110z Tube Tuner/Preamp with many 12ax and 12au (I use a Chase RLC-1 Remote Line Controller with it).

6sn7s

My friend heard my Cayin Integrated's 6sn7 and 6sl7’s here, found deHaviland and had Kara make him a new Preamp with 6sn7’s, AND tube rectification. She ordered the specific transformers she needed, so it’s not quick ship.

http://www.dehavillandhifi.com/UltraVerve-Preamplifier.htm

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REMOTE BALANCE

McIntosh has remote balance

which I love and use frequently, especially compilations that include tracks from different recording sessions, personell, I just listened to this, and made small but beneficial tweaks to many individual tracks

https://vinyl.sonymusic.com/products/sade-the-best-of-sade

And, a CD yesterday, I only tweaked a few of these tracks

https://www.amazon.com/Friend-Mine-Bill-Morrissey-Brown/dp/B0000003U6

 

Does Prima Luna have remote balance?

Either have a dedicated balance button on the remote?, or do you need to get in Menu’s?

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I might prefer the McIntosh, however

PrimaLuna talks about tube rectification

Tube rectified

"In the world of preamps, experts agree that tube rectification is the gold standard. It’s quieter than solid state rectification, dropping the noise floor. And it offers the most natural, textured, and vibrant presentation because the circuit is now pure tube. But because it is expensive to implement, you’ll only find it in the top of the line models typically costing  $10,000 or more. Finding a preamp using one rectifier tube is sweet. PrimaLuna goes even further using two 5AR4 rectifier tubes in a dual-mono design to present your music with a three-dimensionality that will give you goosebumps."

The deHaviland has tube rectification, and they sent my friend alternate tubes, we were surprised how much the sound changes