Why we (often) upgrade the wrong things (first) and ignore the important things


I continue to be impressed by this person. See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jWM0NzE_us&t=50s

He argues for applying a bottleneck principle to audio upgrades: system performance is always capped by its dominant constraint, so upgrading any non-limiting component produces only incremental refinement, not genuine improvement.

The hierarchy of constraints, roughly in descending magnitude, runs: room acoustics and speaker placement (capable of 10–20 dB swings), amplifier headroom and load stability, gain structure alignment, DAC output characteristics, and finally cables. Most audiophile upgrade behavior inverts this hierarchy — people swap DACs and cables because they’re easy, not because they’re limiting.

The gist is a distinction between **audible change** and **ceiling removal**. Any swap can produce a detectable difference; only removing the dominant constraint raises the system’s maximum capability. 

He gives a way to test it. When we remove a constraint, that feels unmistakable and immediate — dynamics expand, you stop gear-monitoring and just listen — whereas novelty-driven changes require effortful attention to detect and fade in significance.

Room treatment and gain-structure analysis are effortful; cable swaps are not. Making this worse are the ways we mis-focus on novelty, which amplifies perceived differences. We think we’ve made a structural improvement but we have not, actually.

 

hilde45

@newton_john I believe that @snilf and I were both trying to push the discussion beyond the subjective vs. objective language. Why do you like qualitative vs. quantitative better? I have my reasons but I'd rather hear yours, first.

“I don’t find the loaded subjective versus objective characterization at all helpful...A much better way is to consider qualitative and quantitative data.”

Tomato (to-may-toe) - Tomato (to-mah-toe)?

Why do you consider the subjective vs. objective characterization to be “loaded”?
Isn’t “qualitative” data based on subjective impressions?  
Is your qualitative vs. subjective delineation based on how the data is collected and analyzed, or something more?

 

@hilde45 

Jay is an exciting showman and doing a remarkable job in Texas. I don't watch all his videos all the way because I don't have a very good attention span and don't really want to commit 25 minutes to watching all these videos about audio systems where they don't really say too much most of the time.

The problem is they don't get compensated unless they make the videos really long so they drag things out.

It's also helpful if people talking in these videos know what they're talking about and do a good job explaining things. 

The YouTube link is very meticulous, if I will follow the guy opinion? I will never finished. In audio there is always bottleneck , why I don’t base my upgrade to weakest link or bottleneck. I take this hobby or upgrading like a journey with joy, When you have good level listening skills ,and knowledge you have the understanding just to enjoy the final destination.Angela Gilbert Yeung is right it’s hard to improved a very good system. Is not worth the money you spend.He said better to put up a second system to do what your other system can’t do. Example I prefer listening to my KLH model9 speakers when I will play classical and my Borensen x1 for jazz , vocal.

With no snark intended, looking at many system pages of members, writing in with this or that problem, tells one that room acoustics/treatments are non existent. Often this is one hundred percent due to co-habitation, the exiting space, cards dealt, budget, thinking the speakers will overpower the space's reflections or just not "getting it".

Often advertisements will show speakers in a heavily glazed room with stone floors.